Path: csiph.com!aioe.org!newsfeed1.swip.net!uio.no!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!newsfeed-00.mathworks.com!nntp.TheWorld.com!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) Newsgroups: sci.physics Subject: Re: Benzene ring- nothing has to magically "delocalize" Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2015 21:02:38 +0000 (UTC) Organization: The World : www.TheWorld.com : Since 1989 Lines: 34 Message-ID: References: <64c78a42-fd20-4aa6-a805-ce78dad4209d@googlegroups.com> <55413ca5-be7f-4d90-9e91-06ae1d1e0231@googlegroups.com> <33e3fc23-6fe8-489a-8952-77deae422008@googlegroups.com> <89c4ad48-e7ee-4817-81c4-082d907b79e8@googlegroups.com> <6494b4a2-a342-4f76-baf3-321ec45f9ee0@googlegroups.com> <139319ac-5bfb-4e2f-9e01-d89dc80f8e7b@googlegroups.com> <223a5288-2331-490c-867b-e9522633c307@googlegroups.com> <55b8522e-3f99-4d3d-b6b9-4bd14d1336ea@googlegroups.com> <977196ec-b742-428b-ad3a-3467a572152a@googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: shell01.theworld.com X-Trace: pcls7.std.com 1438462958 3695 192.74.137.71 (1 Aug 2015 21:02:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@TheWorld.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2015 21:02:38 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: nn/6.6.5 Xref: aioe.org sci.physics:510690 john writes: >Michael said >"Why are you here?" >Because Physics has just made a >bunch of shit up to match observation. No, nothing was "made up". It is just science, people make an observation, come up with a hypothesis, run an experiment and the data from that experiment supports or refutes the hypothesis. In the case of delocalization, experimental data supports that. For benzene, this process has been going on since Kekule's snake dream. >This particular piece of shit says >there are THREE electrons in the >same orbital on each side of the >Benzene ring. ( Not 6.) No it doesn't. There are 6 electrons, one per C atom, each forms the equivalent of one bond to everything else. You can't place electrons as being on one side or the other, each electron has a 50% chance of being on any particular side. >This is totally against one of the >premier rules. >But hey- when ur king u don't have >to follow no steenking rules. Read the "rules", in particular Schrodinger's wave equations. Once again I ask, why are you here? You really do seem to hate science.