Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Snit Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,talk.politics.guns,sci.physics,alt.checkmate Subject: Re: In North America, the good life is just handed to you on a platter. Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2019 18:21:22 -0700 Lines: 104 Message-ID: References: <8fsl2etirvj7mit227nju5jf61aal34iip@4ax.com> <5b3o2e9vdi03vlbhvcd3fap925mvh2ov3o@4ax.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net WuYWGKfH3D15l7oiufEkQA78eaYvNRsQR5+pZrVMAplqgP4OA9 Cancel-Lock: sha1:1IcSMfxMd8HGzD6MoFAg0uJMbRU= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.4.0 In-Reply-To: <5b3o2e9vdi03vlbhvcd3fap925mvh2ov3o@4ax.com> Content-Language: en-US Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.advocacy:482527 talk.politics.guns:1152658 sci.physics:722003 alt.checkmate:244401 On 1/1/19 6:02 PM, Mattb wrote: > On 2 Jan 2019 00:46:47 GMT, Snit wrote: > >> Mattb wrote: >>> On 1 Jan 2019 06:55:33 GMT, Snit wrote: >>> >>>> Mattb wrote: >>>>> On Mon, 31 Dec 2018 20:29:14 -0700, Snit >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 12/31/18 8:17 PM, Mattb wrote: >>>>>> ... >>>>>>>>>>>> Venezuela shows what happens when you let the state run oil production. >>>>>>>>>>>> Despite having the largest reserves of a resource whose demand only >>>>>>>>>>>> grows every year, the Communist state of Venezuela has only ensured >>>>>>>>>>>> hyperinflation and the kind of poverty which forces the population to >>>>>>>>>>>> hunt pigeons or rats for food. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> They are not communist. Nice try though, LOL! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> True it is a socialist government.  Like most socialist governments >>>>>>>>>> became a tyranny.  Elect Elizabeth Warren and the USA might look like >>>>>>>>>> Venezuela. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> By all means show where she says she wants the US to be like Venezuela. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> And off you run AGAIN! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> he had wrong information >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Would you vote for Elizabeth Warren? >>>>>>> >>>>>> I know you did not ask me, but it depends on the campaign. At the start >>>>>> of the 2016 election cycle I was very strongly of the view I would bite >>>>>> my tongue and vote for Clinton if she got the nomination. She worked >>>>>> very hard to get people to not vote for her, and in the end I did not >>>>>> vote for either her or Trump. I think she might have been better in the >>>>>> short term, but long term I am not so sure. More conventional dishonesty >>>>>> and corruption is not better than Trump's incompetent dishonesty and >>>>>> corruption. >>>>> >>>>> I also did not vote for either. Are we agreeing on something is hell >>>>> freezing over. ;-) >>>> >>>> Happy to agree and rarely if ever take any of the stuff here personally. :) >>> >>> Don't take much personally just reply in kind. No when Patrick Barker >>> talked about how good he was with a gun and then asked if I wanted him >>> to visit my kids. Did take that personally. >>> >>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I am not a huge fan of Warren... she is not a good leader, but I would >>>>>> currently pick her over Trump without any reservations. >>>>> >>>>> In the long run not sure she would be good either. Trump is getting >>>>> unstable IMO. >>>>> >>>>> Might have considered Bernie but since the election he is IMO also >>>>> unstable. Saw him on Real Time and wasn't good. >>>> >>>> I like him but I think he words things poorly. Still, even with that, I >>>> mostly like his focus and think he would use the bully pulpit to get the >>>> country focused on things it should be. I am under no illusion he would get >>>> all he wants ? but nobody would. >>> >>> I can't bitch about anyone wording thing poorly. I can be a hypocrite >>> but not that much of one. >> >> :) >>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Maybe Hillary will run again. ;-))))) >>>> >>>> I hope not... and straw polls have her under 5%. Still, she thinks she is >>>> entitled and blames Sanders, the media, Comey, and perhaps aliens. >>> >>> I blame her arrogance. Now who is more arrogant Hillary or Trump? >>>> >>> >> >> A toss up. > > I'd agree but Trump is definitely more egotistical. > More openly. He is also a more open liar... but is it better to have someone who lies better? Clinton lies like a trained lawyer... which can be just as scary as Trump's mindless lying. -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.