Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Trevor Wilson Newsgroups: sci.physics Subject: Re: Self drive cars Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2018 08:30:33 +1000 Lines: 61 Message-ID: References: <6fa5e49b-ff56-41b2-aaab-7f128b538e30@googlegroups.com> <21348767-ba1e-4b49-9444-c09b37affd4e@googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: individual.net cWKa88IZLPqjCij6sK8h5Ap0qIoQFXBwJA8xq6DQAkSy2HlD9u Cancel-Lock: sha1:Wy5P5vDE7fG6Zr2RM9n0QejjYXM= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.8.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US X-Antivirus: Avast (VPS 180626-6, 27/06/2018), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Xref: csiph.com sci.physics:691970 On 27/06/2018 8:05 AM, Double-A wrote: > On Monday, June 25, 2018 at 3:31:54 PM UTC-7, Trevor Wilson wrote: >> On 26/06/2018 7:46 AM, Double-A wrote: >>> On Monday, June 25, 2018 at 2:42:16 PM UTC-7, Sergio wrote: >>>> On 6/25/2018 1:01 AM, Sylvia Else wrote: >>>>> On 24/06/2018 12:26 PM, john wrote: >>>>>> Even if a driver is there supervising, things happen so quickly that >>>>>> unless a person is feeling the road- actually driving- there is no >>>>>> time to react. >>>>>> Nevergoing to work on roads- maybe in Space >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Driver supervision is only being used during development. The intent is >>>>> that the end product will be fully autonomous, with no driver, only >>>>> passengers, and the latter will not be criminally liable for accidents >>>>> or breaches of the road laws. >>>>> >>>>> Sylvia. >>>> >>>> fully autonomous vehicles will always have accidents, >>>> >>>> sensors fail, age, lose calibration >>>> probability of detection is never 100%, >>>> probability of false detection is never 0 >>>> one cannot identify or characterize all road hazards >>>> plugs corrode, disconnect >>>> the system has an overall failure rate >>>> >>>> the courts, lawyers, owners, victims, hospitals, will all demand >>>> liability be identified. >>>> >>>> that June Bug your car hit at 60 mph took out the front right radar >>>> unit, which missed that pedestrian you hit. >>> >>> >>> The goal is not that self driving cars should be perfect, that only that they have less accidents than human driven cars. >>> >> >> **Correct and, in that sense, we are very close to that goal. Another 5 >> years should see that aim completed. >> >> >> -- >> Trevor Wilson >> www.rageaudio.com.au > > > Also, as soon as the fast food restaurants redesign their drive throughs to accommodate them, you should be able to send your care to drive itself to the Pizza Hut, or whatever, by itself to pick up your order! That way, if the car does get in an accident, you won't even be in it! > **I'm way past you there. Apart from not eating junk food, I am thinking of something closer to home. My mother lost her driver's license at age 85. I am expecting a similar result for me in about 20 years. By that time, I expect to own a car which will reverse itself from my garage and wait at my front door, whereupon I will enter and my car will take me to my destination. I won't have to have a driver's license. -- Trevor Wilson www.rageaudio.com.au