Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: vallor Newsgroups: sci.physics,comp.os.linux.advocacy Subject: Re: People are forever MisQuoting Einstein; I correct them. Date: 10 Jun 2018 00:15:11 GMT Lines: 87 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net mWUsmnY8QPD4Vd2TWUx6OgYQSlJ7Q0CcJIYrzAgdulKNGIqzpN Cancel-Lock: sha1:JNMJrXh/mVELqNqEUJyHOtOeO7s= X-Face: #IeFY=iD)&ZN!<}=Q`7Ox_$c8FW)GFXwE@nuP?M%wgfLyX13'FP4j1lhl|*X9$|ka|:VM%EV5aL IhyA]r*'0FkZBcmzB2j"(kd[{ Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAHlBMVEUNBAM7EQpyRybcYiaZgEX 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 User-Agent: Pan/0.146 (Hic habitat felicitas; 1de4962 git.gnome.org/pan2) Xref: csiph.com sci.physics:689809 comp.os.linux.advocacy:454617 On Sat, 09 Jun 2018 16:40:41 -0700, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote: > You (Scott) replied ( to me ): >> > "refuted" by whom, the Pope ? >> >> I see you are stuck in 19th century determinism. > > GrecoRoman Diodorus Cronus, circa 300 BCE, > (rightly) noted that the future is just as fixed as the past. > >> That's a shame, because it is now common knowledge that there are >> non-deterministic processes in nature. > > Your ignorance depends on how impervious you are ( "willfull" or not ) > to the truth. > >> You are, of course, free to deny this, if your religion demands it. > > Everyone avoids the truth, to some extent; > we assert _useful_ premises, irregardless of the truth; > hence ego, online gaming and religion. > > All of history, every lesson ever, every advance, tells _me_: > > Randomness is ignorance, nothing more; > otherwise, there'd be NO TRUTH, nothing for _me_ to aspire to. > > You, on the other hand, aspire to something else. > > Kids are the domain of the poor, uneducated and unfortunate. > Replace the word "love" with "30 year mortgage" and everything becomes > clear. > >> > Einstein, on the other hand, loved the truth, more than most. >> > To his death, he kept telling us: free will is an illusion. >> > >> > > If you don't experience your will as being free, >> > > then you belong in [ EINSTEIN's ] category [ far from the Pope ]. >> >> You're equating yourself with Einstein? >> I said "Jeff", not what you post-edited. > > You think Einstein wouldn't agree with me, on this ? > If so, it's because you haven't read what he wrote, > nor do you care to, because it'd ruin your ego. > >> Einstein used to say "God does not play dice with the universe" >> -- then had to admit that the Copenhagen interpretation was more >> accurate than he was comfortable with. > > People are forever MisQuoting Einstein; I correct them/you. > > Einstein spent decades arguing _against_ the Copenhagen bullshit. > He subscribed to "The Ensemble Interpretation" which says, basically, > that Quantum Mechanics is merely statistical, not complete ( " > correlation does not imply causation " ). > >> > We simply prefer the LeastBad "option", >> > and we can't change what we prefer. >> > >> > How and What we consume is what makes us different. >> >> Do you have a shrine for your religion? >> If so, please post photos, should be interesting. > > Jeff-Relf.Me/TodaysBible.JPG ...your shrine is a Verizon datacenter? How...quaint. Goes with the 19th century philosophy though. Raised floor ftw: https://www.plannet.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Data_Center.jpg Or, for the more traditionalists (obLinux): $ ll bible* -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1740565 Feb 18 2016 bible.data -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 878388 Feb 18 2016 bible.data.conc -- -v