Path: csiph.com!news.redatomik.org!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Snit Newsgroups: sci.physics,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.checkmate,talk.politics.guns Subject: Re: Slaughtering concert goers. Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2018 20:28:13 -0700 Lines: 52 Message-ID: References: <4LMPC.193817$nq5.73490@fx36.iad> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net ofCfNkyskD6oayMba1thvQFJkWDg4+JAjiZv+BLNRbwhVrLCKT Cancel-Lock: sha1:2MwaqavemeqThX57FJHTz/W9fHc= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.13; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.8.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US Xref: csiph.com sci.physics:688595 comp.os.linux.advocacy:453809 alt.checkmate:170885 talk.politics.guns:1090546 On 6/3/18 8:14 PM, Just Wondering wrote: > On 6/3/2018 5:01 PM, % wrote: >> On 2018-06-03 3:24 PM, Just Wondering wrote: >>> On 6/3/2018 4:02 PM, % wrote: >>>> On 2018-06-03 2:59 PM, Just Wondering wrote: >>>>> On 5/31/2018 6:49 PM, !Jones wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> ...  article six of our Document of Confederation >>>>> No such document has ever existed. >>>> >>>> oh you didn't know >>> >>> I'm pretty sure Jonsie means to refer to the Articles of >>> Confederation, which existed, not some bullshit made-up "Document of >>> Confederation." >> >> i don't know what any of these things are > > At the end of the American Revolutionary War, the 13 states > drafted the Articles of Confederation to outline a federal > government.  That government proved ineffectual, so a few > years later the states sent representatives to amend the > Articles.  They ended up scrapping them and drafted the > Constitution to form a stronger federal government. > > Jonsie apparently things the Articles of Confederation > informs us on the meaning of the Second Amendment to > the Constitution.  As usual, Jonsie is wrong. The language it uses can help us to understand the language of the Constitution. ----- ... every State shall always keep up a well-regulated and disciplined militia, sufficiently armed and accoutered, and shall provide and constantly have ready for use, in public stores, a due number of filed pieces and tents, and a proper quantity of arms, ammunition and camp equipage. ----- In no way is that binding law, but it does give insight into the thinking of the day and of those in power who were writing such documents. -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.