Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Trevor Wilson Newsgroups: sci.physics,talk.politics.guns,alt.checkmate Subject: Re: A Shell report predicted how devastating climate change would be, back in 1988 Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2018 08:13:33 +1000 Lines: 77 Message-ID: References:

Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net HkAH6LyHaahjMXBmDAVPkAc5t8JJ1tjHR2Xe58Wi5LaxPjfETy Cancel-Lock: sha1:TsMyMAHChk5mCncMXrS1An9QDic= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.7.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US X-Antivirus: Avast (VPS 180414-2, 14/04/2018), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Xref: csiph.com sci.physics:681074 talk.politics.guns:1078013 alt.checkmate:156965 On 13/04/2018 9:59 AM, Scout wrote: > > > "Trevor Wilson" wrote in message > news:fj7a69FldkrU1@mid.individual.net... >> On 10/04/2018 11:10 AM, Scout wrote: >>> >>> >>> "Trevor Wilson" wrote in message >>> news:fitsnfFh29bU2@mid.individual.net... >>>> On 8/04/2018 3:58 AM, Just Wondering wrote: >>>>> On 4/7/2018 9:43 AM, benj wrote: >>>>>> On 4/7/2018 10:48 AM, Sergio wrote: >>>>>>> On 4/7/2018 9:33 AM, kensi wrote: >>>>>>>> A 1988 Royal Dutch Shell report recently published online shows >>>>>>>> that the >>>>>>>> company knew decades ago what the impact of climate change would >>>>>>>> be. ... >>>>>>>> The report, titled “The Greenhouse Effect,” said the effects of >>>>>>>> climate >>>>>>>> change would be notable by the late 20th Century and early 21st: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://globalnews.ca/news/4127757/shell-climate-change-report-1988/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> it has been in elementary school textbooks since 1960's >>>>>>> >>>>>> Kensi and journalists lie as always. There could be no such report >>>>>> because "climate change" is a term just recently invented by >>>>>> journalists and other wormballers when the global temperature >>>>>> "hockey stick" stopped going up. >>>>>> >>>>>> Expect some Royal Dutch Shell Vice president to sell out and >>>>>> appear all over TV and legacy media telling how oil companies >>>>>> "always" knew selling oil would end all life on the planet. Just >>>>>> as they did with cigarettes where they got sell-out VPs to swear >>>>>> tobacco companies always knew their products caused cancer. Lib >>>>>> agenda 101. >>>>> >>>>> How to be a prophet. >>>>> 1. Make predictions on all possible outcomes. >>>>> 2. When one comes true, point it out. >>>>> 3. Ignore all the predictions that don't come true. >>>>> >>>> >>>> **Except that ALL the climatologists have to been telling us that >>>> the planet is warming. Since the mid 19th century, in fact. >>> >>> Odd, I recall during the 1960s & 1970s how there was global cooling >>> and it was projected that the next Ice Age was just around the corner. >> >> **Yeah, except that prediction was never made by any scientific >> journal on the planet. It was a NEWSWEEK article. > > Cite your support for that claim. **Are you serious? OK: https://longreads.com/2017/04/13/in-1975-newsweek-predicted-a-new-ice-age-were-still-living-with-the-consequences/ https://longreads.com/2017/04/13/in-1975-newsweek-predicted-a-new-ice-age-were-still-living-with-the-consequences/ See? This is the problem. The deniers hold fast to one, popular news story and claim it was the scientific consensus of the mid-1970s. It wasn't. Even back then, the vast majority of climate scientists were expressing concerns that AGW was a real threat to our civilisation. Nothing has altered, except predictions made have been shown to be remarkably accurate and we now have much more information to confirm the theory as the most valid one to explain the warming noted in the past 150 years. -- Trevor Wilson www.rageaudio.com.au