Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Trevor Wilson Newsgroups: sci.physics,talk.politics.guns,alt.checkmate Subject: Re: Climate change is shrinking mountain hares' habitat in the Alps Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2018 16:38:35 +1000 Lines: 166 Message-ID: References: <9I9vC.97230$6O6.3912@fx07.iad> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net 8sdsF0L8BO/6RxYzsxTD/ANXIAVIjMBFQNpBEa/MiRQfCCQkIb Cancel-Lock: sha1:Pno47tErFpurOWE8XErePp1yrwc= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.6.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US X-Antivirus: Avast (VPS 180402-0, 02/04/2018), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Xref: csiph.com sci.physics:679720 talk.politics.guns:1074859 alt.checkmate:153606 On 2/04/2018 6:34 AM, Sergio wrote: > On 4/1/2018 4:14 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >> On 1/04/2018 3:46 PM, Sergio wrote: >>> On 4/1/2018 12:03 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>> On 1/04/2018 11:18 AM, Sergio wrote: >>>>> On 3/31/2018 6:42 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>> On 1/04/2018 8:57 AM, Sergio wrote: >>>>>>> On 3/31/2018 3:53 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>>>> On 30/03/2018 4:51 AM, benj wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 3/29/2018 10:03 AM, kensi wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 3/29/2018 9:55 AM, Sergio wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> so, why cant he survive if the global average goes up 0.1 >>>>>>>>>>> degree F >>>>>>>>>>> over >>>>>>>>>>> 100 years ? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The global average has already gone up around 2 degrees F in just >>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> past few decades, and the rise is accelerating. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Only if you fudge the data. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> And in any event, neither YOU nor any plant or animal could tell >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> difference in two rooms of 2 degree F in a few minutes let along >>>>>>>>> in a >>>>>>>>> few decades. Are you really this stupid? Do you really work in >>>>>>>>> science >>>>>>>>> or "journalism"? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> **I don't have to ask if YOU are this stupid. Everyone already knows >>>>>>>> that not only are you as dumb as a pile of rocks, but you can >>>>>>>> not, nor >>>>>>>> will not answer direct questions, when asked. You scurry away. I >>>>>>>> expect >>>>>>>> nothing less from you now. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> What does it matter if a human can or can not pick a temperature >>>>>>>> difference of a degree C or two? The fact is: The average >>>>>>>> temperatures >>>>>>>> on this planet are rising. Whilst humans may have some difficulty in >>>>>>>> picking the temperature change that small, many plants and animals >>>>>>>> can: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>              this is where you are wrong, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> plants and animals are already adapted to temperature changing >>>>>>> over the >>>>>>> year from  about 32 degrees F in winter up to 95 degrees F in the >>>>>>> summer. >>>>>> >>>>>> **Another moron steps up to be demolished. Did you bother reading >>>>>> ANY of >>>>>> the cites? >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> that is the point, the cites are bullshit.  why ? >>>>> >>>>> "plants and animals are already adapted to temperature changing over >>>>> the >>>>> year from  about 32 degrees F in winter up to 95 degrees F in the >>>>> summer. and golwball worming only changes 0.01 F per year." >>>> >>>> **What is "golwball worming"? >> >> **What is "golwball worming"? **What is "golwball worming"? >> >> >>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> a piddily little change caused by global warming average of  0.1 >>>>>>> degree >>>>>>> F over a decade will not impact any living thing. >>>>>> >>>>>> **And yet, it already does. >>>>> >>>>> no, check your links again, it is  conjecture, look for the *weasel >>>>> words*, if, may, impacts, could, might, increasing, less, dramatically, >>>>> changing, varied, warming, stress, more, more frequent, altered, ...... >>>> >>>> **I already HAVE checked my links. I suggest you read them. >>> >>> you did not read them, did you ? >> >> **Yup. >> >>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>>     but there is no real facts or meat to support the conjecture, >>>>> >>>>> take your first link, they say the ocean is more acidic, so where are >>>>> the measurements, ? >>>> >>>> **Ask and ye shall receive: >>>> >>>> https://www.pmel.noaa.gov/co2/story/Quality+of+pH+Measurements+in+the+NODC+Data+Archives >>>> >>> >>> the big change is only 0.1 ph in 100 years, BUT in the article, "This >>> data set is thus not at all well-suited to showing a change of 0.1 in pH >>> over the last 100 years" >>> >>> so the article you are so proud of, says it is bogus. >> >> >> **Well, no, it does not. In fact, had you taken the time to read the >> article, you might have noticed this graph: >> >> https://www.pmel.noaa.gov/co2/file/Hawaii+Carbon+Dioxide+Time-Series >> >> Kinda says it all. > > > no, read the article, and also follow thei link to > > https://data.nodc.noaa.gov/woa/WOD13/DOC/wod13_intro.pdf#page=44 > > "For example, originator’s chemical concentration units reported in > per mass units were converted to per volume units assuming a > constant density of seawater equal to 1025 kg·m ( e.g. ,an > arbitrary choice). " > > > the study says itself, it is full of holes. > >> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>> >>>>>           that link want you to donate to FishWatch. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> so all the articles that say "clams are dying due to global worming" >>>>>>> are >>>>>>> bullshit. >>>>>> >>>>>> **OK, you cite YOUR climate science credentials. This should be a >>>>>> laugh. >>>> >>>> >>>> **[Sounds of crickets] >> >> **[More crickets] >> > [sound of FishWatch, fishing for your green money] > -- Trevor Wilson www.rageaudio.com.au