Path: csiph.com!news.redatomik.org!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Trevor Wilson Newsgroups: sci.physics,talk.politics.guns,alt.checkmate Subject: Re: Climate change is shrinking mountain hares' habitat in the Alps Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2018 19:14:11 +1000 Lines: 132 Message-ID: References: <9I9vC.97230$6O6.3912@fx07.iad> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net k9/Bn3AajX3pu97K1Ttt8AHpTXRrDlKYofDwNs476t45V6Ppcg Cancel-Lock: sha1:9qu9ltZPUEDh9RhwGIdl/ewiAzk= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.6.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US X-Antivirus: Avast (VPS 180331-0, 31/03/2018), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Xref: csiph.com sci.physics:679376 talk.politics.guns:1074418 alt.checkmate:153108 On 1/04/2018 3:46 PM, Sergio wrote: > On 4/1/2018 12:03 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >> On 1/04/2018 11:18 AM, Sergio wrote: >>> On 3/31/2018 6:42 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>> On 1/04/2018 8:57 AM, Sergio wrote: >>>>> On 3/31/2018 3:53 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote: >>>>>> On 30/03/2018 4:51 AM, benj wrote: >>>>>>> On 3/29/2018 10:03 AM, kensi wrote: >>>>>>>> On 3/29/2018 9:55 AM, Sergio wrote: >>>>>>>>> so, why cant he survive if the global average goes up 0.1 degree F >>>>>>>>> over >>>>>>>>> 100 years ? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The global average has already gone up around 2 degrees F in just >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> past few decades, and the rise is accelerating. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Only if you fudge the data. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> And in any event, neither YOU nor any plant or animal could tell the >>>>>>> difference in two rooms of 2 degree F in a few minutes let along in a >>>>>>> few decades. Are you really this stupid? Do you really work in >>>>>>> science >>>>>>> or "journalism"? >>>>>> >>>>>> **I don't have to ask if YOU are this stupid. Everyone already knows >>>>>> that not only are you as dumb as a pile of rocks, but you can not, nor >>>>>> will not answer direct questions, when asked. You scurry away. I >>>>>> expect >>>>>> nothing less from you now. >>>>>> >>>>>> What does it matter if a human can or can not pick a temperature >>>>>> difference of a degree C or two? The fact is: The average temperatures >>>>>> on this planet are rising. Whilst humans may have some difficulty in >>>>>> picking the temperature change that small, many plants and animals >>>>>> can: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>             this is where you are wrong, >>>>> >>>>> plants and animals are already adapted to temperature changing over the >>>>> year from  about 32 degrees F in winter up to 95 degrees F in the >>>>> summer. >>>> >>>> **Another moron steps up to be demolished. Did you bother reading ANY of >>>> the cites? >>>> >>> >>> that is the point, the cites are bullshit.  why ? >>> >>> "plants and animals are already adapted to temperature changing over the >>> year from  about 32 degrees F in winter up to 95 degrees F in the >>> summer. and golwball worming only changes 0.01 F per year." >> >> **What is "golwball worming"? **What is "golwball worming"? >> >>>> >>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> a piddily little change caused by global warming average of  0.1 degree >>>>> F over a decade will not impact any living thing. >>>> >>>> **And yet, it already does. >>> >>> no, check your links again, it is  conjecture, look for the *weasel >>> words*, if, may, impacts, could, might, increasing, less, dramatically, >>> changing, varied, warming, stress, more, more frequent, altered, ...... >> >> **I already HAVE checked my links. I suggest you read them. > > you did not read them, did you ? **Yup. > >> >>> >>>    but there is no real facts or meat to support the conjecture, >>> >>> take your first link, they say the ocean is more acidic, so where are >>> the measurements, ? >> >> **Ask and ye shall receive: >> >> https://www.pmel.noaa.gov/co2/story/Quality+of+pH+Measurements+in+the+NODC+Data+Archives > > the big change is only 0.1 ph in 100 years, BUT in the article, "This > data set is thus not at all well-suited to showing a change of 0.1 in pH > over the last 100 years" > > so the article you are so proud of, says it is bogus. **Well, no, it does not. In fact, had you taken the time to read the article, you might have noticed this graph: https://www.pmel.noaa.gov/co2/file/Hawaii+Carbon+Dioxide+Time-Series Kinda says it all. > > > > >>> >>>          that link want you to donate to FishWatch. >>> >>> >>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> so all the articles that say "clams are dying due to global worming" >>>>> are >>>>> bullshit. >>>> >>>> **OK, you cite YOUR climate science credentials. This should be a laugh. >> >> >> **[Sounds of crickets] **[More crickets] -- Trevor Wilson www.rageaudio.com.au