Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Sylvia Else Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written,sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity,alt.astronomy,sci.math Subject: Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 11:34:33 +1100 Lines: 95 Message-ID: References: <5866B352.6F63@ix.netcom.com> <58673243.3914@ix.netcom.com> <586758A0.1F74@ix.netcom.com> <5867FE37.723@ix.netcom.com> <58685AA8.4AAB@ix.netcom.com> <5869A346.1C8@ix.netcom.com> <5869E028.3FF1@ix.netcom.com> <586A99A4.792E@ix.netcom.com> <586C858B.4A@ix.netcom.com> <586C8DC4.2DF3@ix.netcom.com> <586EA0AD.16BE@ix.netcom.com> <586EF7F2.26DB@ix.netcom.com> <586FD042.6EAB@ix.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: individual.net dijDU+nKLT6QcxmJ4hYy6QSDdXSVhTgTiqe8mtldJjSTUiQunP Cancel-Lock: sha1:u9FMNA/DnjKydI7LUYL7UT3+FAE= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.3.0 In-Reply-To: <586FD042.6EAB@ix.netcom.com> Xref: csiph.com rec.arts.sf.written:461994 sci.physics:612307 sci.physics.relativity:404840 alt.astronomy:288729 sci.math:360399 On 7/01/2017 4:13 AM, The Starmaker wrote: > Sylvia Else wrote: >> >> On 6/01/2017 12:50 PM, The Starmaker wrote: >>> Sylvia Else wrote: >>>> >>>> On 6/01/2017 6:38 AM, The Starmaker wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> how about the time traveler goes back a day and buys a lottery ticket >>>>> that pays 500 million dollars, goes back to the future and deposits >>>>> the money, goes back again, plays the same numbers, goes back and >>>>> deposits another 500 million, goes back again, plays the same >>>>> numbers, goes back and deposits another 500 million, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> i'm having trouble figuring out where is all this money coming >>>>> from... are the serial numbers the same? are the lottery officals >>>>> wondering why are there all these paid checks made out to the same >>>>> person shows paid over billion dollars but only 500 million paid >>>>> out.. >>>>> >>>>> something is wrong with your 'possible time travel senerios'. >>>>> >>>>> Nature doesn't work this way. >>>> >>>> Well, we don't know how it works (if it works) in the context of time >>>> travel. >>>> >>>> In a version of the universe where a time traveller returns to a new >>>> branch of history each time he travels back and forward, he'd find that >>>> he only ever managed to accumulate one payout, because he never returns >>>> to the version of history in which he'd previously deposited a payout. >>>> >>>> He might even find that the winning numbers change in each new future >>>> (butterfly effect), making his lottery tickets worthless. >>>> >>>> Sylvia. >>> >>> >>> What? >>> >>> I'll reiterate... >>> >>> he travels back in time to >>> Dec. 30th 2016 >>> buys a lottery ticket >>> numbers are 1,2,3,4,5,6,7 >>> wins and gets a check for 500 million.. >>> deposits the check.. >>> >>> he goes back in time to >>> Dec. 30th 2016 >>> buys a lottery ticket >>> numbers are 1,2,3,4,5,6,7 >>> wins and gets a check for 500 million.. >>> deposits the check.. >>> >>> he goes back in time to >>> Dec. 30th 2016 >>> buys a lottery ticket >>> numbers are 1,2,3,4,5,6,7 >>> wins and gets a check for 500 million.. >>> deposits the check.. >>> >>> he goes back in time to >>> Dec. 30th 2016 >>> buys a lottery ticket >>> numbers are 1,2,3,4,5,6,7 >>> wins and gets a check for 500 million.. >>> deposits the check.. >>> >>> He's got two billion dollars now in the bank. >>> >>> >>> he goes back in time to >>> Dec. 30th 2016 .... >>> >> >> Again, you persist in assuming you preferred model of how time travel >> works, and refuse to accept that if time travel is possible, it may >> operate in a different way. >> >> Sylvia. > > > You cannot invoke unproven 'other universes' just so you can come up with ad hoc theories to everything unanswered. > I notice that you haven't sought to address my previous reply. Does that mean that you now accept that we don't know what kind of universe we inhabit, and that the one you are assuming may not be the correct one? Sylvia.