Path: csiph.com!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design,sci.physics,rec.arts.sf.science,sci.space.policy Subject: Re: Ion drive for aircraft imminent. Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2016 21:46:22 -0000 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 36 Sender: Jim Pennino Message-ID: References: <5ec5d120-948f-4013-a835-cd5ae4e4dd19@googlegroups.com> Injection-Info: mx02.eternal-september.org; posting-host="8da84e9083f2652a4698d17ed675450a"; logging-data="27777"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/wDcPBRJlci+btvHcuV5G4" User-Agent: tin/2.2.1-20140504 ("Tober an Righ") (UNIX) (SunOS/5.10 (i86pc)) Cancel-Lock: sha1:wN5Sn9Lq0LhDyYH1i4ZgUMlCrbk= Xref: csiph.com sci.electronics.design:434187 sci.physics:604039 rec.arts.sf.science:25510 sci.space.policy:58691 In sci.physics Phil Hobbs wrote: > On 11/07/2016 01:37 PM, jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >> In sci.physics Robert Clark wrote: >> >> >> >>> If you know of a means to provide 50,000 V at *lightweight* then you will >>> have solved the problem of an independently flying lifter, using the >>> macrosized wires currently used. You would need about a power to weight >>> ratio for the power source of better than 1 watt per gram, while being able >>> to provide these ca. 50,000 V voltages. >>> >>> Bob Clark >> >> Trivial; look at any camera flash unit built in the last several decades. >> >> However you have totally missed the point; voltage and the weight of the >> converter is irrelevant as it is the total power that determines the >> weight of it all. >> >> BTW, here are some real world power to weight ratios: >> >> Boeing 777 engine 10 kW/kg > 1985 Chevy Celebrity 300 W/kg <-- So for a 1000 kg car, that's 402 > horsepower? Sign me up! ;) > > Cheers > > Phil Hobbs No, that is the power to weight ratio of the engine, not the power to weight ratio of the car. -- Jim Pennino