Path: csiph.com!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!1.eu.feeder.erje.net!border1.nntp.ams1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed8.news.xs4all.nl!85.12.16.70.MISMATCH!peer03.ams1!peer.ams1.xlned.com!news.xlned.com!peer03.fr7!futter-mich.highwinds-media.com!peer02.iad!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!post02.iad!fx41.iad.POSTED!not-for-mail Content-Type: Text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: Jeff-Relf.Me @. Message-ID: References: Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,sci.physics,alt.checkmate Subject: China is capitalist with dictatorial aspects. User-Agent: Jeff-Relf.Me/X.HTM Lines: 70 X-Complaints-To: abuse@usenet-news.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2018 23:12:43 UTC Organization: usenet-news.net Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2018 16:12:46 -0700 (Seattle) X-Received-Bytes: 3421 X-Received-Body-CRC: 4000525640 X-Original-Bytes: 3238 Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.advocacy:466547 sci.physics:701896 alt.checkmate:202997 You (Nadegda) replied ( to me ): > > TrueSocialism only works in cold, SparselyPopulated areas. > > Proof, kook? It seems to me it was working quite well in Chile > before the CIA inflicted Pinochet on them. Chile is coldish, and SparselyPopulated. We ( you and I ) can't think of a warm, crowded place where TrueSocialism has worked for any length of time. China is capitalist with dictatorial aspects. > > Pride is ugly, like a wart; the bigger the uglier. > > A robot might select an apple over an orange, > > but that doesn't mean it has "free will" ("the uncaused cause"). > > What the heck is that? I can't decide whether it's > garden variety white supremacism or something more exotic "garden variety white supremacism" ?! Pride is ugly, like a wart; the bigger the uglier. > > Once the cards are all dealt, and the dice stop rolling, > > and the bets are paid out, the "probability wave" has collapsed. > > I think this might be wrong, but I'm not sure ... kensi? An "Unknown cause" isn't the same thing is "no cause". All of history, every lesson ever, every advance, tells me: Randomness is ignorance, nothing more. > You can't prove anything, not ThermoDynamics ( Entropy and eXergy ), nor > General Relativity; in fact, they _ contradict each other. > The best you can do is: > > - Find it useful ( in its domain ). > - Try to Falsify it ( in its domain ). > GR and thermodynamics? > I could've sworn it was GR and quantum mechanics ... kensi? Quantum Mechanics is just a series of odds; like the odds of a coin toss, or a dice roll, or the odds of your horse winning -- anything could happen, and does. > > The earth has warmed and cooled to great extremes over the past _ > > billions of years; long term, it's cooling. > > I'm pretty sure this is wrong, too, even leaving aside human-caused > climate change, but ... kensi? "That Time It Rained for Two Million Years" by "PBS Eons": youtube.com/watch?v=_1LdMWlNYS4 > > The wealth and intelligence of a nation is reflected in its birth rate > > -- from Singapore (.83/woman) and Macau, > > at the top, to Niger (6.49/woman) and Angola at the bottom. > > Jeff-Relf.Me/Global.Fertility.Rates.1970.2014.PNG > > This kookery again? You're like a dog with a kooky little bone. Show me where I'm wrong and/or trivial; please, I beg you. > > "equal rights" == "equal outcomes" == "submission to an insane despot". > > Proof, kook? Venezuela, Cuba, North Korea.