Path: csiph.com!feeder.erje.net!1.eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed9.news.xs4all.nl!85.12.16.68.MISMATCH!peer01.ams1!peer.ams1.xlned.com!news.xlned.com!peer02.fr7!futter-mich.highwinds-media.com!peer02.iad!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!post02.iad!fx22.iad.POSTED!not-for-mail Content-Type: Text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: Jeff-Relf.Me @. Message-ID: References: Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,sci.physics,alt.checkmate Subject: There is no such thing as an "uncaused cause" ( free will ). User-Agent: Jeff-Relf.Me/X.HTM Lines: 10 X-Complaints-To: abuse@usenet-news.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2018 19:46:10 UTC Organization: usenet-news.net Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2018 12:46:10 -0700 (Seattle) X-Received-Bytes: 1130 X-Received-Body-CRC: 1727250121 Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.advocacy:465866 sci.physics:701117 alt.checkmate:200901 > > A robot might select an apple over an orange, > > but that doesn't mean it has "free will" ("the uncaused cause"). > > How is an "uncaused cause" different from randomness? There is no such thing as an "uncaused cause" ( free will ). All of history, every lesson ever, every advance, tells me: Randomness is ignorance, nothing more.