Path: csiph.com!weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed7.news.xs4all.nl!85.12.16.70.MISMATCH!peer03.ams1!peer.ams1.xlned.com!news.xlned.com!peer01.fr7!futter-mich.highwinds-media.com!peer02.iad!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!post02.iad!fx36.iad.POSTED!not-for-mail Content-Type: Text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: Jeff-Relf.Me @. Message-ID: References: Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,sci.physics,alt.checkmate Subject: 72 robotic alien virgins. User-Agent: Jeff-Relf.Me/X.HTM Lines: 59 X-Complaints-To: abuse@blocknews.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2018 01:16:45 UTC Organization: blocknews - www.blocknews.net Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2018 17:16:47 -0800 (Seattle) X-Received-Bytes: 3078 X-Received-Body-CRC: 2665438351 Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.advocacy:478542 sci.physics:713881 alt.checkmate:228571 Nadegda replied ( to me ): > > Believing in causality ("local realism") isn't the same thing > > as believing in Santa Claus or SciFi (MultiWorlds). > > You're calling *her* view "SciFi" while *yours* is > the one that has something faster-than-light in it? _ local realism, causality. No one said anything about "faster-than-light"; not Kenzi, not me. How many "atoms" are in a mole ? No one knows for sure; is it 602214076456788096431455 or 602214076456782096431454 ? When we run out of precision ( as we do ) we can't measure the causality that _ surely exists there; so we're reduced to acausal statistics, Quantum Mechanics. Very, very few ( almost zero ) have a clue about such matters; if it weren't so, Einstein would be an ordinary guy, not a genius. > > All of history, every lesson ever, every advance, tells me: > > > > Randomness is ignorance, nothing more. > > I bet things seem *very* random to you, then. Finally, you got something right ! > > Einstein was right: > > > > Intrinsicly, "God" (nature) doesn't play dice. > > Didn't kensi already address that? I believe she said something about > the wavefunction being deterministic, or something like that. Absurdly, she says our Universe rapidly, eternally duplicates itself. Santa Claus giving me 72 robotic alien virgins is more likely. At the start, there was "no entropy" ( no time, no space ), just "eXergy" ( a type of energy that can do physical work, force * distance ). Everything decays, even gravity; hence the arrow of time. Entropy converts blazars into SpaceTime. Gravity is residual eXergy. Eventually, this eXergy will be consumed away, replaced with entropy, leaving us with a uniform heat bath that has all of the energy, but none of the eXergy. > > > Ko0k1n3s5 l3v3l: TREE(TREE(3)) > > > > ...she said, looking in the mirror. > > OK, now he's reduced to lame-ass IKYABWAIs. It was a good argument in first grade; still is. > You've won, kensi, you can go > ahead and plonk his alcohol-addled ass again. I'm more "sober/humble/real" than you have ever been.