Path: csiph.com!weretis.net!feeder6.news.weretis.net!news.cmpublishers.com!news.ripco.com!rahul.net!wasp.rahul.net!rahul.net!news.misty.com!border2.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!buffer2.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.earthlink.com!news.earthlink.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2019 17:44:19 -0600 Message-ID: <5C4E42D0.55F3@ix.netcom.com> Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2019 15:46:24 -0800 From: The Starmaker Reply-To: starmaker@ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.physics,alt.astronomy Subject: Re: --- Fake or real? --- Mikoyan's MiG-29 OVT Demo References: <5C4A9F92.1255@ix.netcom.com> <5C4C115E.33A9@ix.netcom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: Avast (VPS 190127-4, 01/27/2019), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Lines: 51 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 108.219.229.47 X-Trace: sv3-sazwXBb6AjpZ4PDkqDDJEW//R+TelDJmjYa5o0K3ma0YmU0eBjsUFDFNbBgkYvk3G+MnDA9o1BG59y1!dtMz2NXGeOv3GAygVgL0p1p9egkYCPe0+esJsNQput0HY7kzdl8lA3Po2WmZq+Cp6cIOAv/yavTk!hF4Jp5SucaE= X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 X-Original-Bytes: 2340 Xref: csiph.com sci.physics:724868 alt.astronomy:302896 hanson wrote: > > "The StarFaker" wrote: > > > > hanson wrote: > >> Mikoyan's MiG-29 OVT Demo -- Fake or real? > >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_Cgxy7N-V0 > > > > > StarFaker yodeled: > > fake. > > fake shadows > > fake background > > fake fake fake. > > > > sooo fake it's fake. > > the shadows turn into black ghost. > > the foreground background look like still shots. > > why ask if it's fake or real? > > > hanson wrote: > ... ahahahaha.. So, these concurrent ones below, > at that air-show are then also fakes? > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSySd3jpv-g > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdVJPZAKAQE It's fake! Here's the proof... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSySd3jpv-g Look at the frame 1:22 2:25 5:17 the guy on the left standing has not budge an inch...it's a still photo shot. (you know, green screen bg) same a first video you posted. The third video you posted there is no spectacular manuvering going on.. coasting on a runnaway any plane can do and turning upside down any plane can do.