Path: csiph.com!3.us.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!news.linkpendium.com!news.linkpendium.com!news.snarked.org!border2.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!buffer2.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!buffer1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.earthlink.com!news.earthlink.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2018 11:49:00 -0500 Message-ID: <5B89717A.4BA0@ix.netcom.com> Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2018 09:48:58 -0700 From: The Starmaker Reply-To: starmaker@ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written,sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity,alt.astronomy Subject: Re: Entropy converts black holes into SpaceTime. References: <2c4e096f-096b-51e5-690c-039b1b01dbbe@PointedEars.de> <5B72587D.34AD@ix.netcom.com> <5B7279BE.4EF0@ix.netcom.com> <5B728683.21BE@ix.netcom.com> <5B84F7E6.5DEB@ix.netcom.com> <5B864420.118C@ix.netcom.com> <5B86E14B.23E7@ix.netcom.com> <49e909a3-f96b-44a7-8940-824d06915bce@PointedEars.de> <5B870472.4DEE@ix.netcom.com> <4f62c151-9f32-9fdb-0055-832687a645f5@PointedEars.de> <5B8767FF.1214@ix.netcom.com> <18986868-d308-ba5b-3487-b522b8ef163b@PointedEars.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Antivirus: Avast (VPS 180831-2, 08/31/2018), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Lines: 45 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 108.219.229.47 X-Trace: sv3-zy22KaI2R9iMU/YlL88T3S6OcecuJLqBiFk2o/46egI34FfUMFzhwZ+8CoR6xR9DP8T2skNav3JVhjK!CHXFZn9fradVWTHH6D6chpx+6Jnd1s00IYJ/sW65FgKWLbU/hBgv/D3Yw2QSX2anlSNekLRP0plQ!w9FpUzhj6T4= X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 X-Original-Bytes: 3907 Xref: csiph.com rec.arts.sf.written:497548 sci.physics:700588 sci.physics.relativity:470023 alt.astronomy:301186 Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote: > > "The Starmaker" amok-crossposted over 3 newsgroups: > > Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote: > >> "The Starmaker" trolled: > >>> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote: > >>>> The Starmaker wrote: > >>>>> Now, why are all these rocks flying around? Because... [“before > >>>>> the Big Bang” and other unscientific fantasies] > >>>> The only problem with your idea is that it is not falsifiable, and > >>>> therefore not a theory at all, but just a fancy story. > >>> It's not an idea..or theory..(i don't do theories) This is based on > >>> observation and facts. > >> Sure, your observation of events *before* the Big Bang… > > That was sarcasm. > > > According to Nasa's camera: > > > > "The farthest back Hubble can see is this red blob, a galaxy from 400 > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^ > > million years after the Big Bang." > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^> So, your mindset is...when Hubble takes > a picture one second after the > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > big bang...the picture taking ends, is that right? > ^^^^^^^^ > Given your previous quotation, that is an incredibly stupid question. > > I will answer the question that you should have asked instead: > > Even if it technically could "see" farther, Hubble physically cannot take a > picture of our universe “one second after the big bang” because our universe > did not become transparent before ca. 380'000 years after the _Big Bang_ > (event), the epoch of recombination. > > In order to make observations of the universe when it was younger than that, > we need different observation methods, I already provided you with "different observation methods", it's called...observations of simplified systems. And there you have it: A photograph of before and after the big bang. http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/before%20and%20after%20the%20big%20bang/untitled1.jpg