Path: csiph.com!goblin3!goblin.stu.neva.ru!news.netfront.net!.POSTED.108.219.229.47!not-for-mail From: The Starmaker Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written,sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity,alt.astronomy Subject: Re: Entropy converts black holes into SpaceTime. Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2018 00:01:02 -0700 Organization: Netfront http://www.netfront.net/ Message-ID: <5B8644AE.3310@ix.netcom.com> References: <2c4e096f-096b-51e5-690c-039b1b01dbbe@PointedEars.de> <5B72587D.34AD@ix.netcom.com> <5B7279BE.4EF0@ix.netcom.com> <5B728683.21BE@ix.netcom.com> <5B84F7E6.5DEB@ix.netcom.com> Reply-To: starmaker@ix.netcom.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: adenine.netfront.net; posting-host="108.219.229.47"; logging-data="14027"; mail-complaints-to="news@netfront.net" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (WinNT; U) X-Antivirus: Avast (VPS 180828-12, 08/28/2018), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Xref: csiph.com rec.arts.sf.written:497388 sci.physics:700348 sci.physics.relativity:469666 alt.astronomy:301167 Daniel60 wrote: > > Chris M. Thomasson wrote on 28/08/2018 5:56 PM: > > On 8/28/2018 12:21 AM, The Starmaker wrote: > >> The Starmaker wrote: > >>> > >>> The Starmaker wrote: > >>>> > >>>> The Starmaker wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> Chris M. Thomasson wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On 8/12/2018 3:59 PM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote: > >>>>>>>>> creation out of nothing. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Where did the matter come from? > >>>>>>>> What state was it in before the "big-bang"? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Entropy converts black holes into SpaceTime. > >>>>>>> At the start, there was "no entropy" ("no time, no space"), just > >>>>>>> "eXergy" > >>>>>>> ( a type of energy that can do physical work, force * distance ). > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Eventually, this eXergy will be consumed away, replaced with > >>>>>>> entropy, > >>>>>>> leaving us with a uniform heat bath that has all of the energy > >>>>>>> but none of the eXergy. Gravity is residual eXergy. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Everything decays, even gravity; hence the arrow of time. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Einstein's Cosmological Constant ( 1.11 * 10^−52 / Meters^2 ) > >>>>>>> tells us > >>>>>>> that outer space is growing EXPONENTIALLY, gravity is dying off; > >>>>>>> -- i.e. the "Heat Death" predicted by Lord Kelvin, 1852, > >>>>>>>     is the most likley outcome. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Afaict, even my little idea wrt "our universe is contained within a > >>>>>> black hole, residing in our parent universe" is a chicken-and-egg > >>>>>> problem in and of itself. Where did the first black hole originate > >>>>>> from? > >>>>> > >>>>> The first black hole originated from moments After the big bang. > >>>>> > >>>>> Before the big bang heat death didn't exist, so black holes didn't > >>>>> exist. > >>>>> > >>>>> In other words, before the big bang stars didn't die. > > [...] > > > > If stars did not die, it seems like it can get a bit crowded? Did a > > bunch of stars, finally explode? > > > Before The Big Bang, there were no stars ... nor a Universe to get crowded!! then there would be no need for expansion...