Path: csiph.com!goblin2!goblin1!goblin3!goblin.stu.neva.ru!news.netfront.net!.POSTED.108.219.229.47!not-for-mail From: The Starmaker Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written,sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity,alt.astronomy Subject: Re: Entropy converts black holes into SpaceTime. Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2018 23:58:40 -0700 Organization: Netfront http://www.netfront.net/ Message-ID: <5B864420.118C@ix.netcom.com> References: <2c4e096f-096b-51e5-690c-039b1b01dbbe@PointedEars.de> <5B72587D.34AD@ix.netcom.com> <5B7279BE.4EF0@ix.netcom.com> <5B728683.21BE@ix.netcom.com> <5B84F7E6.5DEB@ix.netcom.com> Reply-To: starmaker@ix.netcom.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: adenine.netfront.net; posting-host="108.219.229.47"; logging-data="13070"; mail-complaints-to="news@netfront.net" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (WinNT; U) X-Antivirus: Avast (VPS 180828-12, 08/28/2018), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Xref: csiph.com rec.arts.sf.written:497387 sci.physics:700347 sci.physics.relativity:469665 alt.astronomy:301166 Chris M. Thomasson wrote: > > On 8/28/2018 12:21 AM, The Starmaker wrote: > > The Starmaker wrote: > >> > >> The Starmaker wrote: > >>> > >>> The Starmaker wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Chris M. Thomasson wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> On 8/12/2018 3:59 PM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote: > >>>>>>>> creation out of nothing. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Where did the matter come from? > >>>>>>> What state was it in before the "big-bang"? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Entropy converts black holes into SpaceTime. > >>>>>> At the start, there was "no entropy" ("no time, no space"), just "eXergy" > >>>>>> ( a type of energy that can do physical work, force * distance ). > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Eventually, this eXergy will be consumed away, replaced with entropy, > >>>>>> leaving us with a uniform heat bath that has all of the energy > >>>>>> but none of the eXergy. Gravity is residual eXergy. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Everything decays, even gravity; hence the arrow of time. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Einstein's Cosmological Constant ( 1.11 * 10^−52 / Meters^2 ) tells us > >>>>>> that outer space is growing EXPONENTIALLY, gravity is dying off; > >>>>>> -- i.e. the "Heat Death" predicted by Lord Kelvin, 1852, > >>>>>> is the most likley outcome. > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Afaict, even my little idea wrt "our universe is contained within a > >>>>> black hole, residing in our parent universe" is a chicken-and-egg > >>>>> problem in and of itself. Where did the first black hole originate from? > >>>> > >>>> The first black hole originated from moments After the big bang. > >>>> > >>>> Before the big bang heat death didn't exist, so black holes didn't exist. > >>>> > >>>> In other words, before the big bang stars didn't die. > [...] > > If stars did not die, it seems like it can get a bit crowded? Did a > bunch of stars, finally explode? .and then there was a big bang.