Path: csiph.com!goblin3!goblin.stu.neva.ru!news.netfront.net!.POSTED.108.219.229.47!not-for-mail From: The Starmaker Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written,sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity,alt.astronomy Subject: Re: Deep Thought Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2018 13:04:32 -0700 Organization: Netfront http://www.netfront.net/ Message-ID: <5B578650.5F79@ix.netcom.com> References: <5B54F677.2732@ix.netcom.com> <2c4e096f-096b-51e5-690c-039b1b01dbbe@PointedEars.de> <1831050.oMNUckLgyt@PointedEars.de> Reply-To: starmaker@ix.netcom.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: adenine.netfront.net; posting-host="108.219.229.47"; logging-data="4518"; mail-complaints-to="news@netfront.net" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (WinNT; U) X-Antivirus: Avast (VPS 180724-4, 07/24/2018), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Xref: csiph.com rec.arts.sf.written:495445 sci.physics:695398 sci.physics.relativity:465481 alt.astronomy:300465 Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote: > > [Please do not crosspost without Followup-To. F’up2 sci.physics.relativity] > > Chris M. Thomasson wrote: > > > > Yes, it is, for the most part. And it appears to have little to do with my > posting. > > > I have always had a little feeling that the big bang might be nothing > > more than a local hyper massive explosion contained within a much larger > > universe. > > A common misconception. > > Contrary to what the term implies, the Big Bang is NOT an explosion. Keep > in mind that the term was coined by Fred Hoyle in order to *mock* adherents > of the now-confirmed theory of universal *expansion*. The name stuck, > therefore we call it the Big Bang theory today. > > The Big Bang as an event was not local in any sense of the word, but as an > event was and as a process is global in every sense of the word: It > happened/happens everywhere in our universe. Regarding the event, because > our universe was infinitesimally small back then; regarding now, because > that is what our universe is. The theory says that spacetime began with > the Big Bang event: > > ,- > | > | […] The Big Bang is not an explosion of matter moving outward to fill an > | empty universe. Instead, space itself expands with time everywhere […] > > > Perhaps a cluster of ultra massive black holes all finally > > merged together. > > An interesting idea that might be difficult to disprove (which does not mean > that it is correct). IIUC it is a distinct possibility – and not > science-fiction – that what we think is our universe is actually the inside > of a supermassive black hole (see also: > ). > > Dr. Lawrence Krauss answered to the question > > ,- > | > | Q: […] If quantum fluctuations are able to actually produce universes […], > | is there ever a chance we might actually observe another universe being > | created? > > after his (great) 2009 talk “A Universe from Nothing”: > > | A: […] But interestingly enough – and this is one of the wonderful things > | about general relativity ­– if a baby universe got created, an inflating > | universe like the one we think we began in, it’s really weird: Because > | from the inside it would look like it was growing exponentially; from > | the outside it would look like it was shrinking to form a black hole. > > This answer has puzzled me since I have heard it, and I would appreciate > an explanation in simple terms (I have not yet a full understanding of > general relativity) by a professional physicist. > > > Wrt a larger universe, the big bang could be a single > > pixel in the following rendering: > > Not the Big Bang, but our observable universe. The “larger universe” would > be the multiverse. > > IIUC, this is the theory of eternal inflation. However, it appears to have > been disproved by the “Planck” space probe’s 2015 data release. The final > dataset of the mission was just released, which might indicate something > else; I have not had time to look at (analyses of) it. > > > > -- > PointedEars > > Twitter: @PointedEars2 > Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail. More nonsense! It's like a disease!!!!