Path: csiph.com!goblin3!goblin.stu.neva.ru!news.netfront.net!.POSTED.108.219.229.47!not-for-mail From: The Starmaker Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written,sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity,alt.astronomy Subject: Re: There is no future Date: Mon, 21 May 2018 14:56:35 -0700 Organization: Netfront http://www.netfront.net/ Message-ID: <5B034093.5699@ix.netcom.com> References: <5B026269.76CC@ix.netcom.com> <5B02F16D.7CA2@ix.netcom.com> <5B032DA9.1DCD@ix.netcom.com> <3lGMC.142422$nq5.125652@fx36.iad> Reply-To: starmaker@ix.netcom.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: adenine.netfront.net; posting-host="108.219.229.47"; logging-data="24587"; mail-complaints-to="news@netfront.net" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (WinNT; U) X-Antivirus: Avast (VPS 180521-0, 05/20/2018), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Xref: csiph.com rec.arts.sf.written:492329 sci.physics:686553 sci.physics.relativity:458758 alt.astronomy:298791 benj wrote: > > On 5/21/2018 4:35 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > > benj wrote: > >> > >> On 5/21/2018 12:18 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > >>> The Starmaker wrote: > >>>> > >>>> There is no future... > >>>> or proof that a future exist. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> I know you people haven't given it....much thought. > >>> > >>> > >>> If you're not certain about the future, how do you know there is one? > >>> > >> Oh Starfaker, you are such a towering intellect! > >> We all love it when you amaze us with your "deep thoughts"! > > > > > > Yes, tell us about your ..."probable futures"! > > > Starfaker, if you knew any science at all (which you do not) You'd know > that causality is a natural law in the earth. This law states that "no > present events are ever determined by future events". Since we are all > living in the present (or more exactly just a little bit past it), this > law shows that the actual future can never be known because there is > NOTHING that can be monitored in the present which can be associated > with the true future. Hence one can never know for certain even if there > is going to be a future a moment from now. > > On the other hand "the most probable future" is another matter. In > nature there is phenomena observed which is termed "inertia" This from > Newton is that objects hurtling along in a straight line just as they > are unless acted upon in some manner. That means that all objects > sliding into the future will for the most part exist in the next moment > of time pretty much as they are in the previous moment. Inertia. What > this allows is for one to make a PROJECTION of the "most probable" > future. You can't offer any guarantee of it, but generally speaking > experience has shown that most such projections do indeed come to pass. > > Starfaker you are still an idiot. You make a great kindergaten teacher, you slap the kid on the head... let me know when you reached the future...