Path: csiph.com!xmission!news.snarked.org!border2.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!buffer2.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!buffer1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.earthlink.com!news.earthlink.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2018 10:50:49 -0500 Message-ID: <5ADF5256.4BD7@ix.netcom.com> Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2018 08:50:46 -0700 From: The Starmaker Reply-To: starmaker@ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written,sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity,alt.astronomy Subject: Re: The Shape of the Universe. References: <5AD6E787.5457@ix.netcom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Antivirus: Avast (VPS 180424-0, 04/23/2018), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Lines: 49 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 108.219.229.47 X-Trace: sv3-vsQntcNUnisE3oLIlcmoTwm+KbvdhHEIzeNrxdEUumr8vVfC//j45xRj6760TABmyS3xBSgEeMmYScC!2YRet+2qNoRAo6Pmqgy/3Pd294HzHQqi9GEmU8yz6L4EIt9u24h7piUZ4k9sBQSeyefI17yYByYt!C4X0TQEclrI= X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 X-Original-Bytes: 3311 Xref: csiph.com rec.arts.sf.written:490957 sci.physics:682231 sci.physics.relativity:456817 alt.astronomy:298269 Daniel60 wrote: > > Tom Roberts wrote on 24/04/18 01:31: > > [I rarely read your posts or reply to you because it seems that all you > > do is post nonsense. But I happened to see this one, and noticed that > > your usual nonsense 'just happens' to be correct, in a way that is worth > > responding to as it may surprise some readers.] > > > > On 4/18/18 1:36 AM, The Starmaker wrote: > >> the universe is both flat and curved. > > > > Yes, this is so, in a way you clearly do not realize or understand. This > > happens because you speak so loosely, without specifying what you mean > > by "the universe" -- that ambiguity can sensibly be interpreted two > > ways, which makes this seemingly silly statement actually be correct. > > > > In our current best cosmological models, spaceTIME is curved, but space > > is flat. > > > > Â Â Â Â [I won't bore you with the details, as you clearly don't care, > > Â Â Â Â and won't understand anyway.] > > > > Tom Roberts > > How can space possibly be "flat"?? > > Seems to me, here on Earth, I can go North-South, and I can go East-West > and I can go Up-Down ... three dimensions!! > > In the Milky Way Galaxy, one day I might be able to go directly towards > the Galaxy Centre, or follow our spiral arm, or go up, out of the > Galactic disk .... three dimensions!! > > And other Galaxies aren't all in the same plane ... three dimensions!! > > And, of course, the Universe is expanding ... in all directions ... > three dimensions!! > -- > Daniel Based on my observations...that which you call the big bang..the stars spread out in all directions because the top was flat and they had to go in all directions because they needed to spread out some more. Down...is where they came from. Up is where they went. But, there was was not much room Up, so they went this way and that way....that which you call...spread out. I mean, really...if you go inside a pizza box...there is not much room up or down. It's flat! The pizza is flat! The box it comes in is flat!!