Path: csiph.com!weretis.net!feeder6.news.weretis.net!feeder.usenetexpress.com!feeder-in1.iad1.usenetexpress.com!peer03.iad!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!border1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!buffer1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!buffer2.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.earthlink.com!news.earthlink.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2018 10:49:45 -0500 Message-ID: <5ADF5216.6ECF@ix.netcom.com> Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2018 08:49:43 -0700 From: The Starmaker Reply-To: starmaker@ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written,sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity,alt.astronomy Subject: Re: The Shape of the Universe. References: <5AD6E787.5457@ix.netcom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Antivirus: Avast (VPS 180424-0, 04/23/2018), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Lines: 39 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 108.219.229.47 X-Trace: sv3-JePjqOdQMlWAlQpPruJg9X9t9Nt6STHbXFpWpPCMcyxkxuAoTr4uKAjiR6Ri++nHBBzYbAKBukAp/BI!DcLc/taswwjLVBVAYzsSXjUPoPOGh0sHn/i+fbFNvVEQwrJ+6VgwxlkPzhDhaAPvW4lM9i7F0+m0!zeaydfHMppY= X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 X-Original-Bytes: 2782 X-Received-Bytes: 2904 X-Received-Body-CRC: 625833398 Xref: csiph.com rec.arts.sf.written:490956 sci.physics:682230 sci.physics.relativity:456816 alt.astronomy:298268 Daniel60 wrote: > > Tom Roberts wrote on 24/04/18 01:31: > > [I rarely read your posts or reply to you because it seems that all you > > do is post nonsense. But I happened to see this one, and noticed that > > your usual nonsense 'just happens' to be correct, in a way that is worth > > responding to as it may surprise some readers.] > > > > On 4/18/18 1:36 AM, The Starmaker wrote: > >> the universe is both flat and curved. > > > > Yes, this is so, in a way you clearly do not realize or understand. This > > happens because you speak so loosely, without specifying what you mean > > by "the universe" -- that ambiguity can sensibly be interpreted two > > ways, which makes this seemingly silly statement actually be correct. > > > > In our current best cosmological models, spaceTIME is curved, but space > > is flat. > > > > Â Â Â Â [I won't bore you with the details, as you clearly don't care, > > Â Â Â Â and won't understand anyway.] > > > > Tom Roberts > > How can space possibly be "flat"?? > > Seems to me, here on Earth, I can go North-South, and I can go East-West > and I can go Up-Down ... three dimensions!! > > In the Milky Way Galaxy, one day I might be able to go directly towards > the Galaxy Centre, or follow our spiral arm, or go up, out of the > Galactic disk .... three dimensions!! > > And other Galaxies aren't all in the same plane ... three dimensions!! > > And, of course, the Universe is expanding ... in all directions ... > three dimensions!! > -- > Daniel