Path: csiph.com!goblin2!goblin1!goblin3!goblin.stu.neva.ru!news.netfront.net!.POSTED.108.219.229.47!not-for-mail From: The Starmaker Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written,sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity,alt.astronomy Subject: Re: The Shape of the Universe. Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2018 13:48:01 -0700 Organization: Netfront http://www.netfront.net/ Message-ID: <5ADCF501.6E6E@ix.netcom.com> References: <5AD6E787.5457@ix.netcom.com> <5AD77FF8.4C88@ix.netcom.com> <1w606pv1lyrrs.pn5mpusdks7z.dlg@40tude.net> <5AD98DDD.3123@ix.netcom.com> <5ADB65F7.29EC@ix.netcom.com> <38s1ie2rpz43.c6ea6gixcd0k.dlg@40tude.net> Reply-To: starmaker@ix.netcom.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: adenine.netfront.net; posting-host="108.219.229.47"; logging-data="34171"; mail-complaints-to="news@netfront.net" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (WinNT; U) X-Antivirus: Avast (VPS 180422-4, 04/22/2018), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Xref: csiph.com rec.arts.sf.written:490883 sci.physics:682002 sci.physics.relativity:456677 alt.astronomy:298223 SolomonW wrote: > > On Sat, 21 Apr 2018 09:25:27 -0700, The Starmaker wrote: > > > SolomonW wrote: > >> > >> On Thu, 19 Apr 2018 23:51:09 -0700, The Starmaker wrote: > >> > >>> SolomonW wrote: > >>>> > >>>> On Wed, 18 Apr 2018 10:27:20 -0700, The Starmaker wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> SolomonW wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> If you go very fast in one direction at eye level...you will return and > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> see the back of your head. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> If you consider the expansion of the universe, this will not happen. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Because the universe is curved. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Yet to be shown. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> You see the back of the head because of the 'ring'. > >>>>> > >>>>> It goes around in a curve... > >>>>> > >>>>> I'm from New York...you drive around the curve.. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> you get into the car and you drive at the edge of the pizza pie > >>>>> > >>>>> you tell your wife, "Drive around the curve." > >>>>> > >>>>> She'll say, "We're back where we started!" "WE GOING IN CIRCLES, DUMNASS!!" > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > > (a) > >>>>> The ring, the curve is.. is the edge of gravity. > >>>>> > >>>>> Beyond the ring...there is no gravity, just more space. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> The big bang did not create space...it expanded to more space. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> It knocked down the wall and got a bigger office... > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> it's called, "We're expanding!" > >>>> > >>>> How do you go around a circle if the ring is expanding greater then light > >>>> speed. > >>> > >>> > >>> The ring is caused by the force of gravity. No matter where you are > >>> standing...it's curved. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> It can be a large pizza, medium size pizza, small size pizza...it circle > >>> all the way down. > >>> > >>> > >>> And I don't see what effect the speed of light has if i go around any > >>> circle... > >> > >> I believe you and maybe you should educate yourself. > > > > > > Earth goes around in circles...it doesn't need the speed of light.. > > > > Why don't you explain how Earth goes around in circles if the ring is expanding greater then light > > speed? > > > > curious minds want to know. > > see (a) above your circle is clearly the edge of the universe. Yes, it is clearly the edge of the universe...but I wrote already: "The big bang did not create space...it expanded to more space." That means.. that which yous call the big bang is actually your universe...encircled, inside the pizza box!!!! The pizza box is the 'steady state universe'..and inside is your...pizza! (that which you call the big bang is your encircled universe, the actual pizza) Now, I must add, Albert Einstein believed in the 'steady state universe' but, but..he had a problem... it didn't fit his relativity theory...so he changed the facts to fit his theory. He just made a mistake, that's all. I'm correcting his mistake! He shoulda just said the big bang occured *inside* the steady state universe. Instead, he threw out the 'steady state' to fit his theory. You know...what Einstein always said, 'If the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts.' Your job today is to correct the mistakes others have made in the past...and you move forward.