Path: csiph.com!weretis.net!feeder6.news.weretis.net!feeder.usenetexpress.com!feeder-in1.iad1.usenetexpress.com!border1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!buffer1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.earthlink.com!news.earthlink.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2018 21:57:17 -0500 Message-ID: <5AD6B43F.1ECB@ix.netcom.com> Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2018 19:58:07 -0700 From: The Starmaker Reply-To: starmaker@ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written,sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity,alt.astronomy Subject: Re: What Are We? References: <5AD2A268.4596@ix.netcom.com> <5FxAC.14225$xS3.8651@fx04.iad> <5AD2CD3B.2ACF@ix.netcom.com> <6bAAC.56345$L22.24268@fx44.iad> <5AD3A5AF.7BDF@ix.netcom.com> <9c0f7d88-b973-4a4f-a5d5-d302d2e0dad5@googlegroups.com> <5AD630B5.10A4@ix.netcom.com> <5AD6720D.7B5F@ix.netcom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Antivirus: Avast (VPS 180417-4, 04/17/2018), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Lines: 86 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 108.219.229.47 X-Trace: sv3-wfJtvpH2sUsjk/6syx/7eKJA0tYs/n1Z5hr8GaeixlgDDdKZlRf0alHd3mSe6VUghD8y/zFLEiH/1aV!AT7FT1z2NMTC7Oicw3CRbCAmyxoJuIt1Cu7VwcyW11JIwFlEG/espgbUqLSQDeRq45KjwAot7upb!CN+elCnITPE= X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 X-Original-Bytes: 4618 Xref: csiph.com rec.arts.sf.written:490575 sci.physics:681483 sci.physics.relativity:456271 alt.astronomy:298146 benj wrote: > > On 4/17/2018 6:15 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > > benj wrote: > >> > >> On 4/17/2018 1:36 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > >>> benj wrote: > >>>> > >>>> On 4/15/2018 10:19 PM, reber G=emc^2 wrote: > >>> > >>>>> We are the eyes of the universe.Bert > >>>>> > >>>> We are cells in the body of God, Bert. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> eyes, cells....???? > >>> > >>> > >>> This is worse than I thought. > >>> > >> Starfaker, given that you have been totally unable to even define what > >> you mean by "we" your "thoughts" are of zero consequence. > > > > > > It's been defined...you're blind too???? > > > > > > -- > > okay, i see you inglish is not tu good.. > > > > > > We | Define We at Dictionary.com > > refers to all people or people in general: the planet on which we live. > > I see as a writer you have no clue about science. You have to do better > than this? Do you mean all people or people in general which is to say > some sort of "average" people. Is the planet included in "we" or are you > only referring to humanoids? And of those again I ask is it ALL > humanoids in any state whatever (including dead) or just some average of > the living of your age with lower than average intelligence as you've got? > > > All people on the planet which we live. > > Does people refer to only human lifeforms or are other humanoids > included if they are on the planet? Does "all" include dead people too? > > > Do you need the definion of the word..."are"? > > Well, yes! Does "are" mean only states they presently hold and does not > include historical or future conditions? Are you limiting everything to > the absolute present? > > > How about...What? > > And yes, when you say "what"? We have no idea what particular aspect of > the human humanoids you are interested in describing? Chemistry? > Biology? Fantasies? goals? Electrical activity? Thoughts? The list can > be endless and virtually impossible to describe and certainly far more > than your brain could ever comprehend. > > In other words your question is nothing but babbling nonsense from a > scientific viewpoint. You are trying to sound deep but you are only > proving you are dumb. > > > > example: What is this thing or object called people? > > > > > > > > "W-H-A-T are we?" > > You could start with describing WHAT ARE YOU? > True facts about your life like name, address, education, employment > history, interests, hobbies, height, weight, medical conditions, shoe > size, belt size, Race, ancestry, family situation and so on would be a > good start. Remember that in science lies and fiction (fantasies) are > reason to get thrown out except for mathematical fantasies. We can’t define anything precisely. If we attempt to, we get into that paralysis of thought that comes to philosophers… one saying to the other: “You don’t know what you are talking about!” The second one says: “What do you mean by know? What do you mean by talking? What do you mean by you?” — Richard P. Feynman "W-H-A-T are we?"