Path: csiph.com!xmission!news.snarked.org!border2.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!buffer2.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.earthlink.com!news.earthlink.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2018 16:08:51 -0500 Message-ID: <5AB2C9F9.5B06@ix.netcom.com> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2018 14:09:13 -0700 From: The Starmaker Reply-To: starmaker@ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written,sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity,alt.astronomy Subject: Re: The Steady State Universe References: <5AA96C99.616D@ix.netcom.com> <5AA9CB55.499C@ix.netcom.com> <5AA9FB94.77CA@ix.netcom.com> <5AAEC75F.C7E@ix.netcom.com> <5AAF4EA5.53C2@ix.netcom.com> <5AAFE288.4408@ix.netcom.com> <5AB13CD4.2803@ix.netcom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Antivirus: Avast (VPS 180321-4, 03/21/2018), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Lines: 193 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 108.219.229.47 X-Trace: sv3-hTvl3yHvr+qgOzFHuyKIsIBpBtTAEs1W/wMDCEISgWwPO27tXzlUjbWhCvMLIjexziXocB471YiJZc6!gjUCu99+lmoE06LJBqNe9EO7vFvyGMs3Q23QhJa1aBHV17WisctTw+rA955FwDMxCGVIMS37PsGE!4gAgRRhCHJw= X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 X-Original-Bytes: 7839 Xref: csiph.com rec.arts.sf.written:488826 sci.physics:677614 sci.physics.relativity:453448 alt.astronomy:297588 Daniel60 wrote: > > The Starmaker wrote on 21/03/18 03:54: > > Daniel60 wrote: > >> > >> The Starmaker wrote on 20/03/18 03:17: > >>> Daniel60 wrote: > >>>> > >>>> The Starmaker wrote on 19/03/18 16:46: > > > > >>>>> Is there a mistake that you see or error you can point out? Or you don't have a leg to stand on... > >>>>> > >>>> What?? You mean like the links don't seem to show what you reckon they > >>>> show?? Sure, there's an error!! > >>> > >>> Which link are you refering to and where is the error exactly? ...or are you one of those vague people with their drive by shootings... > >>> > >> Well lets start with the four links from your post from a couple of days > >> ago .... > >> > >> *Quote* > >> Now, here is an 'illustration' of what 'the before and after big bang > >> photo' looks like...sideways: > >> http://journalofcosmology.com/images/WormHoleDiminsions66.jpg > >> > >> A is the steady state universe and B is the present big bang. > >> > >> It's this photo, but sideways illustrated. > >> http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/before%20and%20after%20the%20big%20bang/untitled1.jpg > >> > >> The green is A and the B is red. > >> > >> and this is the illustration of what happened moments before A > >> transformed to B > >> > >> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d2/Olber%27s_Paradox_-_All_Points.gif > >> > >> just looking for more space: > >> http://journalofcosmology.com/images/WormHoleDiminsions66.jpg > >> *End Quote* > >> > >> Your first link states it is an image of a Wormhole!! > >> Your second link shows some pretty lights on a possibly star spangled > >> background. > >> Your third link shows an orange blob on a black background that turns > >> orange. > >> Your forth link is just a copy of your first link! > >> > >> Sure, the images are pretty, but hardly cosmologically significant!! > >> IMHO, of course!! > >> -- > >> Daniel > > > > I am simply using "illustrations", that I find on the Internet to...'illustrate' to you what this > > > > "photograph" > > http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/before%20and%20after%20the%20big%20bang/untitled1.jpg > > > > is all about. > > > > This is a photograph (not an illustration) of what it looked like 'before and after the big bang' > > > > http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/before%20and%20after%20the%20big%20bang/untitled1.jpg > > > > Dictionary > > il·lus·trate > > > > explain or make (something) clear by using examples, charts, pictures, etc. > > "the results are illustrated in Figure 7" > > synonyms: explain, explicate, elucidate, clarify, make plain, demonstrate, show, emphasize; informalget across > > "this can be illustrated through a brief example" > > serve as an example of. > > > > If I want to use a pair of woman's stockings to illustrate...I can. It doesn't mean the big bang is a pair of woman's stockings. > > > > I'm illustrating > > what this > > photograph is: > > > > http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/before%20and%20after%20the%20big%20bang/untitled1.jpg > > > > It is a 'photograph' of moments after the big bang *and* what it looked like before the big bang. A window into both universes. > > > > http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/before%20and%20after%20the%20big%20bang/untitled1.jpg > > > > There is no error here, just a misunderstanding of women's stockings. > > > "explain or make (something) clear by using examples, charts, pictures, > etc." > > You're failing in that aim!! Maybe it's a level too high in terms you can understand. They don't teach this stuff in school... Let me make something clear to you ....that you failed..to understand... pho·to·graph 'fod??graf/ noun noun: photograph; plural noun: photographs 1. a picture made using a camera, in which an image is focused onto film or other light-sensitive material and then made visible and permanent by chemical treatment, or stored digitally. synonyms: picture, photo, snapshot, shot, image, likeness, print, slide, transparency, still, enlargement, snap; More informalmug shot, head shot "a photograph of her father" verb verb: photograph; 3rd person present: photographs; gerund or present participle: photographing; past tense: photographed; past participle: photographed 1. take a photograph of. Okay, do you understand the defintion of the word...."photograph"? (which you didn't even bother to point out which is most important) Now, I wrote: "It is a 'photograph' of moments after the big bang *and* what it looked like before the big bang. A window into both universes." http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/before%20and%20after%20the%20big%20bang/untitled1.jpg That is a 'photogragh', "a picture made using a camera" of moments before and after the big bang. http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/before%20and%20after%20the%20big%20bang/untitled1.jpg Now, how come you missed that? Is your panties in a knot? Did you strangle yourself with your silk stockings? This is a 'photogragh', "a picture made using a camera" of moments before and after the big bang. http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/before%20and%20after%20the%20big%20bang/untitled1.jpg unretouched. Now, take this photo and show it to your Science teacher and tell him... "This is a unretouched photograh..made using a camera...showing moments before and after the big bang." You know what your stupid science professor is going to say? He's gonna say.. "GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE!!!" Because your science teacher only knows whats inside a textbook. If it ain't in a textbook, it doesn't exist inside his mind. He's gonna say.."Nobody has taken a picture with a camera of moments before and after the big bang!!!!" Then you show him the picture and point out and tell him... "The Green area is the steady state universe, and the red area is moments after the big bang." and he's gonna say.. "GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE!!!" In other words, you're not going to learn anything in skool... This is a 'photogragh', "a picture made using a camera" of moments before and after the big bang. http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/before%20and%20after%20the%20big%20bang/untitled1.jpg unretouched. It's beyond your Science. The Starmaker