Path: csiph.com!feeder.erje.net!2.us.feeder.erje.net!feeder.usenetexpress.com!feeder1.iad1.usenetexpress.com!216.166.98.84.MISMATCH!border1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!buffer1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.earthlink.com!news.earthlink.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 06 Jan 2017 11:06:59 -0600 Message-ID: <586FCEAF.12BE@ix.netcom.com> Date: Fri, 06 Jan 2017 09:06:55 -0800 From: The Starmaker Reply-To: starmaker@ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written,sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity,alt.astronomy,sci.math Subject: Re: Time Travel Is Not Possible References: <5866B352.6F63@ix.netcom.com> <58673243.3914@ix.netcom.com> <586758A0.1F74@ix.netcom.com> <5867FE37.723@ix.netcom.com> <58685AA8.4AAB@ix.netcom.com> <5869A346.1C8@ix.netcom.com> <5869E028.3FF1@ix.netcom.com> <586A99A4.792E@ix.netcom.com> <586C858B.4A@ix.netcom.com> <586C8DC4.2DF3@ix.netcom.com> <586EA0AD.16BE@ix.netcom.com> <586EF7F2.26DB@ix.netcom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 63 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 108.219.229.47 X-Trace: sv3-cfJbJM4WFG1/0ymnAIlBlsfG2mSw5kDGljTBGS1qrYCi1bVTbo2qC7WjC9Gds99BYdHZBsxu+XmVSni!lF+3nQl4UDJrAX+ajSct3Gu8XurrGKpWMFhRAtul3iXjWEaG9A2ts7Ifze9WAVF/+HWOz7GUofbp!9rAx7Q4gur0= X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 X-Original-Bytes: 3977 Xref: csiph.com rec.arts.sf.written:461730 sci.physics:611935 sci.physics.relativity:404292 alt.astronomy:288638 sci.math:359703 Alan Baker wrote: > > On 2017-01-05 5:50 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > > Sylvia Else wrote: > >> > >> On 6/01/2017 6:38 AM, The Starmaker wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> how about the time traveler goes back a day and buys a lottery ticket > >>> that pays 500 million dollars, goes back to the future and deposits > >>> the money, goes back again, plays the same numbers, goes back and > >>> deposits another 500 million, goes back again, plays the same > >>> numbers, goes back and deposits another 500 million, > >>> > >>> > >>> i'm having trouble figuring out where is all this money coming > >>> from... are the serial numbers the same? are the lottery officals > >>> wondering why are there all these paid checks made out to the same > >>> person shows paid over billion dollars but only 500 million paid > >>> out.. > >>> > >>> something is wrong with your 'possible time travel senerios'. > >>> > >>> Nature doesn't work this way. > >> > >> Well, we don't know how it works (if it works) in the context of time > >> travel. > >> > >> In a version of the universe where a time traveller returns to a new > >> branch of history each time he travels back and forward, he'd find that > >> he only ever managed to accumulate one payout, because he never returns > >> to the version of history in which he'd previously deposited a payout. > >> > >> He might even find that the winning numbers change in each new future > >> (butterfly effect), making his lottery tickets worthless. > >> > >> Sylvia. > > > > > > What? > > > > I'll reiterate... > > > > he travels back in time to > > Dec. 30th 2016 > > buys a lottery ticket > > numbers are 1,2,3,4,5,6,7 > > wins and gets a check for 500 million.. > > deposits the check.. > > > > he goes back in time to > > Dec. 30th 2016 > > buys a lottery ticket > > numbers are 1,2,3,4,5,6,7 > > wins and gets a check for 500 million.. > > deposits the check.. > > And at that point there are two winning tickets in the time stream, so > each gets 250 million, reducing his first payout to that figure. What do you mean two winning tickets???? History shows only one person picked the winning ticket.