Path: csiph.com!feeder.erje.net!1.us.feeder.erje.net!newspeer1.nac.net!border2.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!buffer2.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!buffer1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.earthlink.com!news.earthlink.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2016 12:50:44 -0600 Message-ID: <583C7C84.6370@ix.netcom.com> Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2016 10:50:44 -0800 From: The Starmaker Reply-To: starmaker@ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.physics Subject: Re: Odd too stupid to talk to References: <9827d8f0-5da7-41d6-90c8-0dde093dd836@googlegroups.com> <58338d75$0$55992$c3e8da3$33881b6a@news.astraweb.com> <8772b285-57f7-448e-9d90-cdaf13a394e1@googlegroups.com> <58373276.2D7C@ix.netcom.com> <5838A63E.1A2D@ix.netcom.com> <5839E3CC.346B@ix.netcom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 83 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 108.219.229.47 X-Trace: sv3-QOYD0sF+y7NkjOtwDThQ2kvEkgh59xf7S+z1faS4ORGS2b1XCgESAWgU66hKupcdPVZsCD3fi+5hNrb!GHdmUo/7vPz/fwxQNuEzQtXk8P2UcrU1zzjet8NK8w5LXIZCv4hr7ZepXWBFjUQjfNCgLMxUIvTx!CFdM5uC2cl4= X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 X-Original-Bytes: 3917 Xref: csiph.com sci.physics:606853 The Starmaker wrote: > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > kenseto wrote: > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, November 22, 2016 at 12:50:51 PM UTC-5, Odd Bodkin wrote: > > > > > On 11/21/2016 6:12 PM, benj wrote: > > > > > > So you think that asserting that "nothing" is "something" is an equation > > > > > > you believe in? Is English your first language? Here, let me draw a > > > > > > picture so eve you can understand it if Odd never can: "Nothing" is > > > > > > defined as and entity having no properties. "Something" is an entity > > > > > > that has properties. > > > > > > > > > > > > For example empty space has properties. Therefore it cannot be "nothing" > > > > > > and must be "something". > > > > > > > > > > Completely agree. I know no scientist who would claim that empty space > > > > > is "nothing at all". > > > > > > > > By definition: Einstein's SR empty space means "nothing at all".....the need for an aether is superfluous (sp?). > > > > > > > > > > Nor do I know any scientist that would claim that an electron with no > > > > > volume or structure but has other properties is "nothing at all". > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables > > > > > > you guys need my genuis help... > > > > > > all things are made of atoms > > > > > > but not all of the universe contain ...things. > > > > > > maybe only a few percent contain ...anythings. > > > > > > Nothing has...no things. > > > > > > no things have no atoms. > > > > > > Now, i don't want to go above your level of understanding > > > and explain to you what is contained in ....else... > > > in the 'no-thing'...it's just...else. > > > > > > Maybe...just...thoughts. > > > > I'll make easy for yous... > > > > take a diving suit and a space suit > > they both do the same.. > > > > they both are for ...oceans/atmospheres. > > > > a fish doesn't know it's wet.. > > neither do people. > > > > Space atmosphere > > is an ocean of time > > that flows... > > a wave of time. > > of course i have no plans going to outer space and getting wet. > > The Earth is floating in outer space... > > maybe I'm wet now and don't know it. Now people ask the question..."Is the universe flat or curved?" The answer is...it depends where you are standing. If you're standing on a wave, it's curved. If you're standing the space ocean where there is no wave, it's flat! You gotta go with the flow... Anything in the universe that contain waves..you should be able to figure it out now.