Path: csiph.com!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!feeder01.blueworldhosting.com!border2.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!buffer2.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!buffer1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.earthlink.com!news.earthlink.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2016 17:06:48 -0500 Message-ID: <57BA2631.7D1A@ix.netcom.com> Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2016 15:07:45 -0700 From: The Starmaker Reply-To: starmaker@ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.physics Subject: Re: clock rate References: <05937284-e0db-4343-8360-48fd4ce5c0b8@googlegroups.com> <0c5a50ac-3802-45b1-b832-447d8e49ff58@googlegroups.com> <37139726-ab06-4f5e-ba67-97a2da657e8d@googlegroups.com> <2646195c-06b1-4df5-aed8-d89b90391ada@googlegroups.com> <57B8D4C1.4D25@ix.netcom.com> <57B9E2C5.3CFA@ix.netcom.com> <57B9F6A4.7CB8@ix.netcom.com> <121ffd45-0028-4c63-b43c-39358f33559d@googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 45 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 108.219.229.47 X-Trace: sv3-jrOMPpv5EMdy46iJdEqamjSBl+yewoqxnTUdDpIb9IHG9nJKCn1reQ11ZYD6odR2gc01Jd1gX0j4+G5!+3YiUUHM/a3BChcr80bhX/Efxc25JZTxYR+dI42xB2H7VRewefCdv3Wsf9ceC/ItXoqutaCkjIpE!7VQTzS1zlLY= X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 X-Original-Bytes: 3564 Xref: csiph.com sci.physics:594104 xxein1@att.net wrote: > > On Sunday, August 21, 2016 at 2:44:08 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote: > > xxein1@att.net wrote: > > > > > > On Sunday, August 21, 2016 at 1:19:21 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote: > > > > xxein1@att.net wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, August 20, 2016 at 6:06:53 PM UTC-4, The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > xxein1@att.net wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Everyone knows...you're the better model, xx(ein)Stein. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If the two clocks are falling towards the earth...at the sametime..the earth is falling up at the sametime towards the clock. Did you figure that in? > > > > > > > > > > xxein: I know of that but that is not the scenario I posed. Does that enable you to answer my simple question? > > > > > > > > > > "I station a clock a few meters above the ground. From somewhere above, I drop an identical clock so that it passes by the stationary clock. At the instant it passes, as a matter of principle, which clock will have the faster time rate?" And assume a non-rotating Earth. And for more simplicity - an isolated Earth. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what would happen if you performed the expirement on the moon? > > > > > > > xxein: The principle is the same. > > > > > > > > > > > > the fastest time rate would be the clock above because it started > > > > already in the future. > > > > > > > xxein: Would you really think that if the velocity of the moving clock was .9c? > > > > I'm talking about before you let go of the clock...since it's higher..it ticks faster...it's in the future..it got a head start. > > xxein: A higher clock ticks faster than a lower clock. OK. How fast is it ticking when/as it falls past the lower clock? Faster or slower? Well, of course slower since it is now the lower clock and the other clock is higher now, so now it's ticking faster. No math is required...not even logic.