Path: csiph.com!weretis.net!feeder6.news.weretis.net!news.glorb.com!border1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!buffer1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.earthlink.com!news.earthlink.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2016 12:39:56 -0500 Message-ID: <57B9E7A0.288@ix.netcom.com> Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2016 10:40:48 -0700 From: The Starmaker Reply-To: starmaker@ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.physics Subject: Re: clock rate References: <05937284-e0db-4343-8360-48fd4ce5c0b8@googlegroups.com> <0c5a50ac-3802-45b1-b832-447d8e49ff58@googlegroups.com> <37139726-ab06-4f5e-ba67-97a2da657e8d@googlegroups.com> <2646195c-06b1-4df5-aed8-d89b90391ada@googlegroups.com> <9d260b47-1822-49f3-8741-7c35c6971a12@googlegroups.com> <4154dbab-81e9-4de8-abaa-5223720d3085@googlegroups.com> <72172f5e-8726-4621-9d70-127a1b40db92@googlegroups.com> <8d63ce51-ec69-49f5-99fd-0c3578de7114@googlegroups.com> <2ce07234-260d-4d88-a5d9-092c9b3e0b02@googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 41 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 108.219.229.47 X-Trace: sv3-OYtJ8MCjZAW/Szi9tcyeAO/ZNqZizo5200aRvfueKS6hl8e8II9ufXwJi/Frfy/J+wpk6DnEpLcFGie!n2glxtxVWMS8agXmBhUW8oP0iYINep3lz1N+rJgxKdjD/CG3c1BR65LUEBGL1g0igeqqfi1QIII8!+RzIMVSwdA== X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 X-Original-Bytes: 4204 Xref: csiph.com sci.physics:594053 xxein1@att.net wrote: > > On Sunday, August 21, 2016 at 2:39:01 AM UTC-4, Poutnik Fornntp wrote: > > Dne 21/08/2016 v 01:19 xxein1@att.net napsal(a): > > >> > > > xxein: OK. Have it your way. What does GR predict for this case? How is it justified? Until you answer, you are either lazy or unable to do it, > > > you make an unjustified claim before that. > > > > > > "I station a clock a few meters above the ground. From somewhere above, I drop an identical clock so that it passes by the stationary clock. At the instant it passes, as a matter of principle, which clock will have the faster time rate?" > > > > > > Did I answer my own question incorrectly? Did I answer my own question? Did anyone else (pun) answer my question? Does anyone know how to answer the question? Did anyone ask how to answer the question? Is it beneath one's dignity to answer the question? Is the answer contained in MTW pp 476 eqns 405-434 - inhomogeneous polymorphic class2 rotational matrices? > > > > > > What does GR say about it? Does GR assume something not in evidence? Is GR lacking evidence? Is it beyond the limits of GR? Why or why not? > > > > > > Am I the only one able to calculate it and answer the question? Can anyone prove me wrong. You can't because you don't know what 'right' is. > > > > > > Where is Hillman, Gibbs, Baez, or Roberts? What do they have to say about this? Would they know or just think they know? > > > > > > Who can one rely upon for this matter? Who can analyze all the aspects of this and be confident with an answer? It doesn't cost anything to try. > > > > > > > You can get the professional quality answers easier, > > if reposted in a cooperative style. > > > > Not in confrontation and demanding style, > > that does not really search for the answer, > > but just for confirmation of your a priori idea. > > > > Searching for confirmation, > > you evade scientific methods that could violate it. > > > > -- > > Poutnik ( The Pilgrim, Der Wanderer ) > > Knowledge makes great men humble, but small men arrogant. > > xxein: OK. > > I station a clock a few meters above the ground. From somewhere above, I drop an identical clock so that it passes by the stationary clock. At the instant it passes, as a matter of principle, which clock will have the faster time rate? sounds like an engeneering problem, not a pysics problem.