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The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> JanPB wrote:
> >
> > On Saturday, May 28, 2016 at 1:03:31 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> > > JanPB wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Friday, May 27, 2016 at 11:26:41 PM UTC-7, Thomas Heger wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > It is legal to criticise whatever you like in physics (or any other
> > > > > science).
> > > > >
> > > > > But your critique will not get very far. Especially inside such
> > > > > locked-in communities  critique will not be heard, since the insiders
> > > > > have no interest in listening to challenging statements from outside.
> > > >
> > > > No. It doesn't work that way. The reality is that _in fact_ there are no "challenging statements"
> > > > in physics (or mathematics) "from the outside" to speak of(*). Physics and mathematics have
> > > > evolved to the point where a significant amount of time and honest work is required to even
> > > > understand the subject fully, let alone contribute to it.
> > > >
> > > > So the people "inside" can tell right away that such "challenges" are worthless but the
> > > > "challengers" cannot understand why. Instead, they claim some weird "conspiracies" and
> > > > vent on the Internet.
> > > >
> > > > (*) except philosophical
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Jan
> > >
> > > That is complete garbage!
> > >
> > >
> > > Real physics comes from...'understanding' without the mathematics.
> >
> > Without understanding the mathematics you have no understanding of physics.
> >
> > --
> > Jan
> 
> I understand...
> 'this thing of yours'..
> this invention yous
> call...Math,
> 
> is just another
> language yous
> invented.
> 
> But, you're under
> an illusion that it's real.
> 
> You are sooo close
> to the math trees, that
> you have to climb
> mountains and bigger
> moutains in order to
> see the math forest.
> 
> You're in a mandelbrot.
> http://guciek.github.io/web_mandelbrot.html
> 
> The more you click
> the deeper you fall in
> the more complicated it
> gets...you become,
> infected.



yous math people have created...too many trees.


Those trees need to be ...cut down.