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The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > hanson wrote:
> > >
> > > Sternmacher "The Starmaker" <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > >  >> > if the past doesn't exist..
> > > >> > and the future does not exist
> > > >> >
> > > > Sam Wormley wrote:
> > > >>   what makes you think the Present exist?
> > > >>    Let's make it a bit more personal...
> > > >>    you don't think your next breath
> > > >>    is not in the future...
> > > >>    or your previous breath is not in the past?
> > > >
> > > Sternmacher wrote:
> > > > can you go back to the past and get a sample of your breath????
> > > >
> > > hanson wrote:
> > > Sternmacher, not withstanding your belletristic notions below,
> > > you can retrieve a that sample of breath from the past,
> > > and not only in a closed space and of a few seconds ago,
> > > but, as long as the sample is small enough you can do it
> > > outside in the open air and go back thousands of years....
> > > >
> > > It used to be standard edu, when discussing the size of
> > > Avogardo's Number. N_A = ~ 6.02*10^23, to calculate
> > > that you inhale and exhale, with every breath you take,
> > >  2 to 3 atoms of the SAME oxygen that Jesus was breathing
> > > 2000 years ago... etc.  The calc is easy. High school stuff.
> > > >
> > > Sternmacher wrote:
> > > > and how can i predict what will be in the future?
> > > > what makes you think the Present exist? you mentioned the
> > > > past and the future, but not the present...
> > > > what makes you think the Present exist?
> > > > Sam, let me show you how it works...you first have to THINK.
> >
> > That is no indication that a past exist...
> >
> > or a present or a future.
> >
> > It doesn't even prove that you are living *in* time...
> 
> I mean...really, tell me where exactly is this ...'present'?


Is it here, or over there?


I don't see any evidence of Time. Not even a time flow...whateverthatis.


But, but...didn't Einstein say Time is an illusion? I mean, didn't he
say that???


Didn't Albert Einstein say himself that the present is an illusion????


Doesn't that mean that the present doesn't exist??? It's just an
illusion?


Didn't Albert Einstein say himself that the present is an illusion????


I mean, he is quoted as saying the presnt is an illusion...i'm surley
not wrong about that!


But that would mean the present doesn't exist, if I understood
correctly...