Path: csiph.com!xmission!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!feeder01.blueworldhosting.com!peer01.iad.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!Xl.tags.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.earthlink.com!news.earthlink.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2015 01:14:35 -0600 Message-ID: <567260FC.6090@ix.netcom.com> Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2015 23:15:08 -0800 From: The Starmaker Reply-To: starmaker@ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.astronomy,sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity,rec.arts.sf.written Subject: Re: Is the universe curved or flat? References: <566B467D.3BA1@ix.netcom.com> <9e104241-bd34-499a-ae13-d21c6f5aa6f9@googlegroups.com> <566BB2D3.53B6@ix.netcom.com> <566DDC37.7057@ix.netcom.com> <566F2EF7.26E6@ix.netcom.com> <5670932A.75CB@ix.netcom.com> <56709F5F.39BC@ix.netcom.com> <5670A3A0.41C0@ix.netcom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 106 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 162.239.141.5 X-Trace: sv3-xXLMTWQzltU7uNxoQ4b728zjvMwxFwMJHjgaHNNZZrBaqgSxK1vMZuplGNJakv5iXQ/IJs60Jx8L1ky!/axyUBQc/PTV/m9TLba3+CYCjGa6ngSzBFS4MBC+fpSvgHSfYsh5C3BXyIwHBzJ+XsRIdTJwtBWL!ayaILTDS8A== X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 X-Original-Bytes: 4317 X-Received-Bytes: 4429 X-Received-Body-CRC: 2219137331 Xref: csiph.com alt.astronomy:279921 sci.physics:539772 sci.physics.relativity:372212 rec.arts.sf.written:429351 The Starmaker wrote: > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Sam Wormley wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 12/11/15 4:02 PM, Double-A wrote: > > > > > > > > On Friday, December 11, 2015 at 1:56:08 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > > >> if you say both, i'll shoot myself! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Flat. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Double-A > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Double-A is correct. WMAP nailed down the curvature of space to > > > > > > > within 0.4% of "flat" Euclidean. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this wmac cmb jazz was created by a couple of radio DJ's...i don't trust those drug addicts. > > > > > > > > there is no proof that the cmb was cause by a big bang. that's just...speculation. > > > > > > > > it couldda been somthin else. > > > > > > For example... > > > > > > this thing called WMAP or CMB... > > > > > > microwave background???? > > > > > > We are talking about 'radio dj's'! > > > > > > The background is not 'microwave'...it's RADIO waves. > > > > > > That's why there is no heat...it's music, not fire. > > > > > > That stuff in the backgound is just a lot of noise. > > > > "While working on a new type of antenna at Bell Labs in Holmdel > > Township, New Jersey, they found a source of noise in the atmosphere > > that they could not explain." > > > > Notice the word "noise"? "noise in the atmosphere"... > > > > noise > > > > 1. > > a sound, especially one that is loud or unpleasant or that causes > > disturbance. Like a big bang! > > In other words, somebody...took all the noise (radio waves is what it > really is) and changed it to 'microwave waves'. Now...just because there was a lot of noise in the universe...radio waves... a big bang if you will...doesn't mean it was caused by an explosion. What I mean is...picture it if you will...what else could cause a lot of noise in the universe detected by those radio guys? 'They say'...by they i mean 'the scientific community', says only an explosion could have caused all that racket/waves... a big bang. But there is something else they haven't thought of... all that noise/raidowaves in the universe didn't have to be caused by an explosion... just the opposite.. something very calm and silent could cause all that big bang noise radio waves in the universe... something very calm and silent.. like the soft touch of a piano key... or the gentle blow on the tuba. a soft touch on a harp... a blow of air on a trumpet can make a ear pericing sound yet it is caused by quiet air. In other words, not a big bang explosion... but a simple gentle air on the tuba. The CMB is just the sound of music. The Starmaker