Path: csiph.com!au2pb.net!feeder.erje.net!2.us.feeder.erje.net!news.glorb.com!Xl.tags.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.earthlink.com!news.earthlink.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2015 00:02:39 -0600 Message-ID: <566A66FF.3DF9@ix.netcom.com> Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2015 22:02:39 -0800 From: The Starmaker Reply-To: starmaker@ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.astronomy,sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity,rec.arts.sf.written Subject: Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe References: <56672006.3AA7@ix.netcom.com> <5668B7A9.550B@ix.netcom.com> <5668F5C8.19CD@ix.netcom.com> <56691651.4C0F@ix.netcom.com> <605ec460-7d74-4e16-9c8b-2d302481e897@googlegroups.com> <566931FE.74D@ix.netcom.com> <5669D295.6F7B@ix.netcom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 104 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 162.239.141.5 X-Trace: sv3-EdJB7ct5feoxrFjUTv5Xdc5xpEHG7AJ9AfLwqLuOIY7HEeDB8FkEyv/VeqJNMJUQQpyO3rU2FSL7y0F!68+Nd0vRJmsqT7VvM7ChtK/2ThO4kAFSZW+rTg1pP54xPBK/vlD41HZ8qYf9g28UVtJ8vpQpcgrI!EVqMl65WIw== X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 X-Original-Bytes: 5725 Xref: csiph.com alt.astronomy:279809 sci.physics:538585 sci.physics.relativity:371797 rec.arts.sf.written:428810 The Starmaker wrote: > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > pnalsing@gmail.com wrote: > > > > > > On Wednesday, December 9, 2015 at 10:05:48 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote: > > > > Sam Wormley wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On 12/9/15 9:47 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It the was never hot. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Analysis of the CMB says otherwise. > > > > > > > > > > > The existence of the CMB radiation was first predicted by Ralph > > > > > > Alpherin 1948 in connection with his research on Big Bang > > > > > > Nucleosynthesis undertaken together with Robert Herman and George > > > > > > Gamow. It was first observed inadvertently in 1965 by Arno Penzias > > > > > > and Robert Wilson at the Bell Telephone Laboratories in Murray Hill, > > > > > > New Jersey. The radiation was acting as a source of excess noise in a > > > > > > radio receiver they were building. Coincidentally, researchers at > > > > > > nearby Princeton University, led by Robert Dicke and including Dave > > > > > > Wilkinson of the WMAP science team, were devising an experiment to > > > > > > find the CMB. When they heard about the Bell Labs result they > > > > > > immediately realized that the CMB had been found. The result was a > > > > > > pair of papers in the Astrophysical Journal (vol. 142 of 1965): one > > > > > > by Penzias and Wilson detailing the observations, and one by Dicke, > > > > > > Peebles, Roll, and Wilkinson giving the cosmological interpretation. > > > > > > Penzias and Wilson shared the 1978 Nobel prize in physics for their > > > > > > discovery. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > doesn't say nuthin about hot... > > > > > > > > > > > > i seen the cmb photos...everyone has....doesn't look hot to me. looks > > > > like cold space. > > > > > > > > > > > > please don't come back here and say the cmb photo is after it cooled > > > > down.. > > > > > > > > > > > > It the was never hot! > > > > > > > > > > > > space is cold. it was always be cold. > > > > > > Ya know, rather than just guessing, you could look this stuff up for yourself, and not seem like such a complete idiot, over and over again... > > > > my method is How new laws are discovered, not by..."looking it up". > > > > > > > > http://www.space.com/20330-cosmic-microwave-background-explained-infographic.html > > > > > > "The CMB was created at a time in cosmic history called the Recombination Era. The universe had cooled to a temperature of about 5,000 degrees Fahrenheit (2,700 degrees Celsius), cool enough for electrons and protons to "recombine" into hydrogen atoms. Photons were released, and today this radiation is called the CMB." > > > > > > Although it is cool now, this wasn't always the case for the CMB. > > > > It is, and was always cool....even in the cmb case. > > > > If it was hot, we wouldn't have a universe today. > > > > As I mentioned before...the big bang was an explosion of MORE space...cool space.. > > > > there was no heat in the explosion of more space.. > > i'm not even sure there was an ...explosion. ...and another thing.. this business about...singularity. According to my..picture, the universe didn't started out in a singularity. or a very small dot..singularity. I would say it was the size of our galaxy....but certaintly not a singularity. In other words, the whole universe today fitted in the size of out milky way... then there was...the big bang. But, certaintly not a singularity. You people got that all wrong. But I have a feeling where you get all your inaccurate information....you must have...'looked it up'. Is that what you girls call Science today, looking it up on the Internet????