Path: csiph.com!au2pb.net!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!feeder01.blueworldhosting.com!border2.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!Xl.tags.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.earthlink.com!news.earthlink.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2015 13:42:13 -0600 Message-ID: <5644EB99.36E2@ix.netcom.com> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2015 11:42:17 -0800 From: The Starmaker Reply-To: starmaker@ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.astronomy,rec.arts.sf.written,sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity Subject: Re: INFINITY References: <5642F478.55FD@ix.netcom.com> <1wK0y.57106$WF.55681@fx30.iad> <5643B049.145B@ix.netcom.com> <2ba85050-ca52-4b41-9d6e-be39006acbb8@googlegroups.com> <5644CEEF.2BAD@ix.netcom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 49 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 45.49.183.72 X-Trace: sv3-u32H6qdGaUHROvXYYFl4aYFoukMFDfT3xYn5QAeMF6HywPsWlo7AtcPfHll5/YBw1NmTcC1zPcHiKAn!tIgN444SpjiQjRC0y2gE6ERX3Coe2vAViQL3KVUbj4BsfahJc5KgX8OsQ005dSuBnbTNZwVgsChb!I8HbwaWw X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 X-Original-Bytes: 3344 Xref: csiph.com alt.astronomy:278995 rec.arts.sf.written:426228 sci.physics:532419 sci.physics.relativity:369815 benj wrote: > > On 11/12/2015 12:39 PM, The Starmaker wrote: > > Ross A. Finlayson wrote: > >> > >> On Thursday, November 12, 2015 at 2:02:42 AM UTC-8, je suis charly wrote: > >>> In article , gilber34 wrote: > >>> > >>>>> The universe is flat, not curved...it is only curved...mathematically. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> you silly, if the universe is flat, why is the earth a sphere ? > >>>> > >>>> and yes, Earth is only curved at the edges. > >>> > >>> The universe appears to have zero global curvature; mathematicians refer to zero > >>> curvature as flat. This an additional definition to the old definition of a > >>> primarily two dimensional surface with little relief in the third dimension. The > >>> earth is nearly spherical body in a local hyperbolic geometry which appears over > >>> long distance to become Euclidean geometry. > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Any one who has common sense will remember that the bewilderments > >>> of the eye are of two kinds, and arise from two causes, either from > >>> coming out of the light or from going into the light, which is true > >>> of the mind's eye, quite as much as of the bodily eye. > >> > >> On peut commencer avec "il n'y a peut de l'Universe". > >> > >> One can start with "there is only the Universe". > >> One can start with "there is nothing but the Universe". > >> > >> On peut commencer avec "il n'y a plus de l'Universe". > > > > > > You got everything wrong...(you need to get off the math road) > > > > > > "there is nothing AND the universe" > > > > > > Where do you think the universe came from? > > The universe was projected from God, starfaker. Hence, God is everything > and always was and will be. Hence God is nothing AND the universe! > So then...you don't believe God created the universe since it already existed?? How about the earth???