Path: csiph.com!optima2.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!news.glorb.com!Xl.tags.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.earthlink.com!news.earthlink.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2015 01:09:30 -0600 Message-ID: <56370C50.4F6A@ix.netcom.com> Date: Sun, 01 Nov 2015 23:10:08 -0800 From: The Starmaker Reply-To: starmaker@ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.physics Subject: Re: Why is the universe flat? 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Finlayson wrote: > > On Sunday, November 1, 2015 at 4:18:02 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote: > > Ross A. Finlayson wrote: > > > > > > On Sunday, November 1, 2015 at 3:07:12 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote: > > > > Ross A. Finlayson wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, October 31, 2015 at 8:40:29 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > Ross A. Finlayson wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, October 31, 2015 at 8:02:29 PM UTC-7, benj wrote: > > > > > > > > On 10/31/2015 05:41 PM, reber g=emc^2 wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Saturday, October 31, 2015 at 1:25:32 PM UTC-7, Sam Wormley wrote: > > > > > > > > >> On 10/31/15 2:01 PM, Ross A. Finlayson wrote: > > > > > > > > >>> No, that the universe is infinite > > > > > > > > >>> is courtesy deductive inference. > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> Perhaps a refresher: > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> Why is the universe flat? > > > > > > > > >> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTUsOWtxKKA > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > Cosmic inflation is a theory that was proposed in the 1980s by > > > > > > > > >> > cosmologist Alan Guth to answer some of the most fundamental > > > > > > > > >> > questions of the origins of our universe. It also solved the Horizon > > > > > > > > >> > Problem and the Flatness Problem. > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > The universe seems infinite to us because its so big,and getting bigger at am accelerating rate.Its inflating however that makes it finite.Sad but reality. TreBert > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sad that it's all bullshit and you are too dumb to know otherwise. > > > > > > > > Wormley has trained you well. Parrot! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Don't worry. If it's useless to physics, > > > > > > > it will just fall out. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That's also a nice thing about numbers. > > > > > > > They do what they do automatically. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We got Einstein over here too, and he > > > > > > > says the Universe is infinite or you're > > > > > > > stupid. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But Einstein says the Universe is infinite based on...his theory, which > > > > > > hasn't been proven, it's just his assumption. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > maybe "infinite" is a coverup. > > > > > > > > > > > > Something Einstein came up with to fix something else...he probably > > > > > > simply...changed the facts to fit his theory. > > > > > > > > > > I got an answer for ya! > > > > > > > > > > Time goes back forever, > > > > > Space goes on forever. > > > > > > > > > > > > Space can go on forever if only time allows it... > > > > > > > > space and time cannot go further than the future.. > > > > > > > > the future is created at moment by moment foward.. > > > > > > > > so space and time can only move, moment by moment foward...in > > > > increments. > > > > > > > > at a time, one at a time.. > > > > > > > > The future does not exist, now, so space and time does not exist without > > > > a future, so > > > > there is no infinite until time moves forward. > > > > > > > > If you take a polaroid photo > > > > of your girl friend naked.. > > > > and you reverse time, the photo > > > > becomes blank. > > > > > > > > If you take a picture of her > > > > putting back on her clothes... > > > > > > > > you would have to take a lot > > > > of pictures to show each > > > > part she put back on. > > > > > > > > There is a lapse of time > > > > between each picture > > > > you take... > > > > > > > > That lapse is the future > > > > moving forward.. > > > > > > > > You can take an infinte pictures of her.. > > > > but only one frame at a time. > > > > > > > > When you run out of film.. > > > > space and time continues, one frame at a time to take her > > > > pictures of her....infinite, but one frame at a time. > > > > > > > > > If I have a point here it's this: > > > > > Einstein with the cosmological constant, > > > > > and Planck with Planck's c and C, > > > > > have those those for placeholders for that > > > > > Planck's c and Einstein's cosmological constant > > > > > are greater than zero and less than any fixed > > > > > value. Their value is an infinitesimal, and the > > > > > real infinitesimals exist as the total partitioning > > > > > of their range. This exactly fits with the usual > > > > > role of the infinitesimal in the usual role of the > > > > > differential of the integral calculus. Also: there > > > > > are features for effect of the infinitesimals, that > > > > > discretization doubles the point width. > > > > > > > > > > Where you accept that's Einstein's formula, and, > > > > > that "constant" exists in all interpretations of that, > > > > > then to correlate and combine the effects of the > > > > > large and small, will see that introduction of a > > > > > proper mathematical foundation with the real > > > > > with their own infinitesimals, automatically equips > > > > > the existing theory with new features in effect. > > > > > > > > > > It's not not an infinitesimal. > > > > > > > > > > So, just as here Guth's is a re-sweeping accommodation > > > > > of the big telescope in the large (and there are other > > > > > Guth's), it's not final in the hysterisis of jumping over > > > > > again the "constant's" value, but of all the resulting > > > > > framework to accommodate each: that it's larger than > > > > > zero and less than a fixed scalar value. > > > > > > > > > > I built a logic and a mathematics and a geometry for this > > > > > that is simply discovered by anybody. > > > > > > Space-time is continuous, not granular. > > > > > > Each of your frames is moving! > > > > There is a spce between each frame...it just seems, continous. It's an > > illusion. > > > > > > > > Paint a picture, it'll last longer. > > > > There is a space of time between adding more paints on the canvas with > > your brush. > > > > > > > > Vortex, Boris! > > > > > > StarMaker or HVAC: there's a light > > > at the end of the tunnel. > > > > > > Get a room or get back to something formal. > > > > > > And quit pimping your girlfriend! > > > > > > The handle reads: The Starmaker.. starmakers pimp girls...your girls, > > any girl. starmakers are flesh peddlers. > > > > I cannot quit what i am. > > > > The Starmaker > > > > > > i don't know what a HVAC is. > > Sigh. > > Think of the children. > > Rake and hoe. Spade, rake, and hoe. Garden. > Till and sow. For every time there is a season. > > Zen is No Mind! > > Wheels roll. Time goes. Rivers flow. Seas roll. > > Always be true to yourself! > > The cosmological constant is an infinitesimal. > > I got more mental armor here than your mouth! > > My, what sharp teeth I have. > > Harvest: blessed harvest. > > https://bible.org/article/seven-laws-harvest > > I'm not a bible thumper, that's just to cleanse the palate. > > You can promote without pimping. > > (Sigh, but I hate pimps/exploitation and Nazis/oppression. > At least you're not a Nazi?) > > I'm a big egalitarian. > > So: back to why space-time is almost totally flat: > Einstein's cosmological constant is a real infinitesimal. Correct me if i'm wrong... but didn't Albert Einstein called the addition of his cosmological constant the greatest blunder of his life????