Path: csiph.com!optima2.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!enother.net!enother.net!peer01.iad.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!Xl.tags.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.earthlink.com!news.earthlink.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2015 15:20:46 -0500 Message-ID: <563530B8.6844@ix.netcom.com> Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2015 13:20:56 -0800 From: The Starmaker Reply-To: starmaker@ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.physics Subject: Re: Why is the universe flat? 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Finlayson wrote: > > On Saturday, October 31, 2015 at 11:58:50 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote: > > Ross A. Finlayson wrote: > > > > > > On Thursday, October 29, 2015 at 12:11:47 AM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote: > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > noTthaTguY wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the main elements are planes and lines, > > > > > > > > which are dual in space, and vertices and cells, > > > > > > > > like wise. hte infinite net of hexahedra is autodual, > > > > > > > > just as is the tetrahedron > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you think you can translate that for people who live in the ....real > > > > > > > world? > > > > > > > > > > > > In other words... > > > > > > can you tranlate it to pictures or video > > > > > > without using symbols...another form > > > > > > of communication instead of math? > > > > > > > > > > or maybe "just" using "words" in "english"? > > > > > > > > > > > > In other words... > > > > > > > > can you connect this: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the main elements are planes and lines, > > > > > > > > which are dual in space, and vertices and cells, > > > > > > > > like wise. hte infinite net of hexahedra is autodual, > > > > > > > > just as is the tetrahedron > > > > > > > > to the real world? And translate into english?? > > > > > > A triangle is defined by three sides, > > > or, three angles and one side. > > > > > > This is a statement of the resource terms > > > of representations. > > > > > > "Measuring the area of a triangle" is a > > > usual feature of a geometry. > > > > > > > > Who said anything by a "triangle"?? > > > > > > In geometry, a tetrahedron (plural: tetrahedra or tetrahedrons) is a polyhedron composed of four triangular faces, six straight edges, and four vertex corners. > > > > > > > > > > ain't you missing one side, (or was you cutting classes that day?)? > > > > > > > > It's the end of the road for you, isn't it? > > > > > > > > and btw, this idea that the universe/space/time is..infinitysium is just an ...assumption. > > No, that the universe is infinite > is courtesy deductive inference. It's the same thing. a thing that is accepted as true or as certain to happen, without proof. https://www.google.com/#q=define+assumption "if the premises are true,..." https://www.google.com/#q=define+deductive+inference a previous statement or proposition from which another is inferred or follows as a conclusion. "if the premise is true, then the conclusion must be true" https://www.google.com/#q=define+premise synonyms: "premise" supposition, presumption, belief, expectation, conjecture, speculation, surmise, guess, "premise", hypothesis; https://www.google.com/#q=define+assumption "IF" https://www.google.com/#q=define+if So, I repeat: this idea that the universe/space/time is..infinite is just an ...assumption. the theory of space and time is ...just a theory.