Path: csiph.com!aioe.org!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!feeder01.blueworldhosting.com!peer03.iad.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!Xl.tags.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.earthlink.com!news.earthlink.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 13:23:47 -0500 Message-ID: <55830CB4.6B4D@ix.netcom.com> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 11:23:48 -0700 From: The Starmaker Reply-To: starmaker@ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.atheism,sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity Subject: Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. References: <5gngnapfi6r3somoc08jln3qc8025es60m@4ax.com> <557f4848$0$23209$edfadb0f@dtext01.news.tele.dk> <55809f3b$0$23232$edfadb0f@dtext01.news.tele.dk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 54 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 23.241.144.149 X-Trace: sv3-2Y6a8+u0XFLfXjuHR8Q2Rttw2kOs/zHNhZDV6I0uPGXfI9OBhwAP2WpNQnvd/i/ZwYYz5kMwzcp+WpV!+pmBLaelJmcRfkgJCNnPRsD+gxWYch0H/RPP9rpUVRdT39vzZ8ZxsiEg6gPPFUg18knrtxWwdAg3!vxnrCCIKtnw= X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 X-Original-Bytes: 3521 X-Received-Bytes: 3633 X-Received-Body-CRC: 3516061428 Xref: aioe.org alt.atheism:1926963 sci.physics:500980 sci.physics.relativity:353515 Jeanne Douglas wrote: > > In article , > "Alex W." wrote: > > > On 17/06/2015 01:48, Christopher A. Lee wrote: > > > > >> Have you ever been abroad? To my neck of the woods? Religion is as good as > > >> gone in all aspects of society. I'm already living the virtual 100%. > > >> 'Whispering spirits' won't impress any of us. > > > > > > The US is pretty much the only developed country which is so > > > religious, with the possible exception of Ireland and Poland. > > > > > > It's not for nothing that Ratzinger used newbies Poland to try and get > > > the EU to "acknowledge its Christian heritage" in the draft EU > > > constitution, which ended up being abandoned because or the > > > Vatican-directed fighting. > > > > > > This of course, went down like a lead balloon among both the secular > > > countries and the (nominally) Protestant ones. > > > > > > > I'm conflicted here. > > > > On the one hand, I would not want a political regime explicitly rooted > > in Christianity or any other religion. > > > > On the other hand, common cultural traits are absolutely vital for the > > success of a venture such as the European Union. > > We have a rare privilege here. We can decide which of our cultural > traits are worth keeping and which are not as we move our societies into > the future. And we don't have to let the religions make those choices > for us ever again; we can choose what most helps humanity and humans. > > -- > > JD Those or "we can choose" are people who are guided by some sort of ...religion or beliefs..to help humanity and humans. It's always been that way... Israel believes they are running the United States... Scientist spend billions of your money searching for a glass of water on planet X...it's a cosmic religion. Who is without religion?