Path: csiph.com!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com Newsgroups: sci.physics,talk.politics.guns,alt.checkmate Subject: Re: 'Planetary emergency:' After 30 years, leaders are still fighting about climate change Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2018 18:09:37 -0000 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 95 Sender: Jim Pennino Message-ID: <18b2ff-9ce.ln1@mail.specsol.com> References: <37b0ff-148.ln1@mail.specsol.com> <9gu0ff-9t9.ln1@mail.specsol.com> Injection-Info: reader01.eternal-september.org; posting-host="0fa3d228b60954ddd285d3e4d0b2889a"; logging-data="21601"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+EkkjAfwdXNWEQw41wJ+xU" User-Agent: tin/2.2.1-20140504 ("Tober an Righ") (UNIX) (SunOS/5.10 (i86pc)) Cancel-Lock: sha1:wScB/RqCfxWS2DGC8yNodVDSOwM= Xref: csiph.com sci.physics:720203 talk.politics.guns:1149354 alt.checkmate:240034 In sci.physics Scout wrote: > > > wrote in message > news:9gu0ff-9t9.ln1@mail.specsol.com... >> In sci.physics Scout >> wrote: >>> >>> >>> wrote in message >>> news:37b0ff-148.ln1@mail.specsol.com... >>>> In sci.physics Nadegda wrote: >>>>> Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, >>>>> melt! >>>>> On Fri, 21 Dec 2018 20:29:01 +0000, jimp wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> In sci.physics kensi wrote: >>>>>>> Hidden in the 133-page document agreed upon at the UN climate change >>>>>>> talks was a compromise that many consider an infuriating distraction: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/16/health/sutter-cop24-climate-talks/ >>>>> index.html >>>>>> >>>>>> 30 years of "the sky is falling" and no massive crop failures, no >>>>>> flooded cities, and no piles of bodies. >>>>> >>>>> Perhaps you have not been paying attention to the news recently? >>>>> >>>>> Crop failures: >>>>> >>>>> https://www.nrdc.org/media/2013/130827 >>>>> >>>>> https://www.cnbc.com/2018/07/23/heatwave-hits-california-lemons-sending- >>>>> prices-soaring.html >>>>> >>>>> http://agnetwest.com/weather-takes-toll-california-olive-crop/ >>>>> >>>>> Flooded cities: >>>>> >>>>> https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/aug/15/new-orleans-flooding-rain- >>>>> water-louisiana >>>>> >>>>> https://www.houstonchronicle.com/local/hc-investigations/harvey/ >>>>> >>>>> https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-asia-19231710/typhoon-floods-hit-chinese- >>>>> city-of-jingdezhen >>>>> >>>>> Piles of bodies: >>>>> >>>>> https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/hurricane-marias-new-death-toll- >>>>> estimate-is-higher-than-katrinas/ >>>>> >>>>> https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/28/health/puerto-rico-gw-report-excess-deaths/ >>>>> index.html >>>>> >>>>> https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn4259-european-heatwave-caused-35000- >>>>> deaths/ >>>>> >>>>> Just how *many* crop failures, flooded cities, and four-, five-, and >>>>> more- >>>>> figure death tolls will it take before you admit that we have a >>>>> problem? >>>> >>>> More than the normal number, which is what we have now. >>> >>> Cite please for us exactly what this 'normal number' is and the data to >>> support that. >> >> Check crop reports for the past hundred years or so. > > Let's see. Crop production is UP. > >> >> Check sea level for the past hundred years or so. > > Sea level is basically unchanged. > >> >> Check life expectancy for the past hundred years or so. > > Life expectancy is up, unless you're in a criminal gang or involved with > illegal drugs. > > Which means that for the overwhelming majority of normal people they can > expect to live better and longer lives. > > Ok, I checks. What exactly am I suppose to be seeing from your 'man made > climate change'? What do you mean "your"? I'm the one saying I don't see any apocalypse happening. -- Jim Pennino