Path: csiph.com!weretis.net!feeder6.news.weretis.net!nntp.club.cc.cmu.edu!micro-heart-of-gold.mit.edu!newsswitch.lcs.mit.edu!nntp.TheWorld.com!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity Subject: Re: What Do Dingleberries Actually Mean When They Claim Moving Clocks Run Slow? Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2017 16:46:19 +0000 (UTC) Organization: The World : www.TheWorld.com : Since 1989 Lines: 22 Message-ID: References: <42aa6d75-1050-48a2-a2b6-32a018752999@googlegroups.com> <37aab4cf-20d1-4aee-a764-c33e11aa315d@googlegroups.com> <2793824b-3fef-4c5c-af25-ed32c5f24fa2@googlegroups.com> <490a3c2b-52a5-44e7-99ad-49ba58ead8f5@googlegroups.com> <42d68e94-91a2-476b-8289-3bf3d46a6b05@googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: shell01.theworld.com X-Trace: pcls7.std.com 1504716379 13571 192.74.137.71 (6 Sep 2017 16:46:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@TheWorld.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2017 16:46:19 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: nn/6.6.5 Xref: csiph.com sci.physics.relativity:431362 kenseto writes: >On Tuesday, September 5, 2017 at 5:10:31 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote: >> >> Ken, as Einstein discussed that gedanken, he NEVER SAID that the >> >> observers were at rest relative to the events. Not once. That's because >> >> you cannot be at rest relative to the events. >> > >> > Fucking idiot the train observer is at rest with respect to the positions >> > of the event (the ends of the train). >> >> Ken, I will ask you to re-read the gedanken. Notice that Einstein says >> that the events are the lightning strikes, not the ends of the train. >He said that lightning strikes at the ends of the train (that means the >positions of the events) at the moment when M and M' are coincided. If >not there is no way to determine if the strikes were happened at equal >distance from M or M'. No, Ken, Einstein said the lightning struck the train ends and the platform simultaneously. Think of the lightning bolts as leaping between the train ends and platform if it helps.