Path: csiph.com!weretis.net!feeder6.news.weretis.net!nntp.club.cc.cmu.edu!micro-heart-of-gold.mit.edu!newsswitch.lcs.mit.edu!nntp.TheWorld.com!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity Subject: Re: Silver mirror Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2017 02:28:07 +0000 (UTC) Organization: The World : www.TheWorld.com : Since 1989 Lines: 29 Message-ID: References: <127e59e6-ccf7-4384-b129-7a6354a60f7f@googlegroups.com> <4828bd4a-6f67-458a-9c1f-488696d228e4@googlegroups.com> <589920b9$0$43720$c3e8da3$5e5e430d@news.astraweb.com> <30852487-a323-4684-9313-fc7e97fa9d58@googlegroups.com> <1705facb-f2c2-4d73-ae02-feccd4a9a06d@googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: shell01.theworld.com X-Trace: pcls7.std.com 1487039287 4669 192.74.137.71 (14 Feb 2017 02:28:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@TheWorld.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2017 02:28:07 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: nn/6.6.5 Xref: csiph.com sci.physics.relativity:409140 kenseto writes: >On Monday, February 13, 2017 at 11:11:03 AM UTC-5, Michael Moroney wrote: >> >No moron....you need a human to qualify as an observer. >> >> No, Stupid Ken. You don't get to redefine how physicists define an >> observer. TV cameras and other measuring devices on the pucks qualify >> as observers to science. Nobody cares about how you try to redefine >> science terms. >> >> These days, science is so complex that a human almost _never_ observes >> anything directly any more. Every observation is observed and measured by >> some sort of measurement equipment or other. >Idiot that's why the human observer uses theories and measurements to >predict observations. You got that backwards, Stupid Ken. You don't predict observations, you make observations to support or refute your theory. > Tp claim that a piece of equipment is an observer >is stupid. Maybe in Stupid Ken-speak, but to real scientists observations by equipment are extremely valuable. Scientists always use equipment as observers when they can. Fortunately, scientists never use Stupid Ken-speak.