Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Thomas Heger Newsgroups: alt.atheism,sci.physics.relativity Subject: Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2016 14:07:14 +0200 Lines: 71 Message-ID: References: <57dc5eee$0$31213$c3e8da3$dd9697d2@news.astraweb.com> <57dc95d2$0$43888$c3e8da3$5e5e430d@news.astraweb.com> <57ddb4dc$0$62163$b1db1813$2411a48f@news.astraweb.com> <57DE25DF.2FBB@ix.netcom.com> <8a3ttbtp2v2pil9mgdum6rqm36lqgqh1dp@4ax.com> <1orutbtdfg4uejrrljk9c75889ebgt3q2b@4ax.com> <9nmnbq.32u.19.1@news.alt.net> <9noqa2.6s1.19.1@news.alt.net> <9ns0v8.ih.17.1@news.alt.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: individual.net yxFCblCHbzvxKWa3f9NMeQ/ZL2vVRdVu9g86ajPF1WWovT2xaD Cancel-Lock: sha1:ppHGevtCYUgtjWiNhq1NtufklPc= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 In-Reply-To: Xref: csiph.com alt.atheism:2173155 sci.physics.relativity:393723 Am 25.09.2016 06:39, schrieb Olrik: >>>> E.g. traditional Chinese medicine was an ancient form of medicine and >>>> was accepted and highly developed. >>>> >>>> The modern form of curing a disease with a pill or two, is actually >>>> quite young. >>> >>> And it has conquered the planet because it *works*. The alternative >>> name for Western medicine is "evidence-based medicine" -- because its >>> treatments and procedures and drugs are tested, again and again, and >>> again. >>> >> >> >> You need drugs in certain cases, but medicine is not 'handing out pills'. >> >> Certainly modern chemicals are far better that grind tiger bones. But >> still there is a vast realm, where pills do not cure. >> >> I think, the principles of traditional Chinese medicine are by far >> superior to what western doctors do (besides handing out pills). >> >> Chinese medicine also covers food, quality of homes, personal relations >> or weather. >> >> They have a lot of physical treatments, which operate without synthetic >> drugs, like e.g. massage or acupuncture. >> >> To apply such form of treatment you need extensive training. And you >> need a teacher, that act more like a 'personal trainer'. So you could >> not learn Chinese medicine from books, but you need a trainer and a lot >> of practise. >> >> The Chinese medicine has as a main principle, that doctors try to avoid >> diseases and there efforts are, to hinder their patients from becoming >> sick. >> >> Western medicine is based on the idea of intervention and aims to cure a >> patient from a disease. >> >> So Chinese doctors see healthy patients, while western doctors see only >> sick patients. > > Chinese death rate : 100 % > > Causes of death in Chinese people : > > http://www.worldatlas.com/articles/leading-causes-of-death-in-china.html > > Life expectancy : > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy > > China is 53rd, Canada is 12th. I'll stick with my healthcare regime... > Traditional Chinese medicine is not that popular in current China. 'Traditional' means: a few thousand years ago until the end of the last Chinese Empire. Mao and his cronies had banned this type of medicine, the monasteries were destroyed and the doctors 're-educated'. There is some kind of revival. But China is large and the population mainly poor. They are also quite careless with avoidable risks like e.g. toxic materials. They have pollution problems, too. TH