Path: csiph.com!weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!news.szaf.org!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: "Alex W." Newsgroups: alt.atheism,sci.physics.relativity Subject: Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2016 16:11:25 +1000 Lines: 33 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: individual.net 8oXIuYaDK0M9NoAKMtFfrAItvaso3SDmq0/Kuh+oM19CbKm4Sv Cancel-Lock: sha1:LQW8e8SYadYAOcaNsRi7sFmrHrE= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.2.0 In-Reply-To: Xref: csiph.com alt.atheism:2170622 sci.physics.relativity:392911 On 19/09/2016 14:48, Attila wrote: > On Mon, 19 Sep 2016 03:25:54 +0200, Thomas Heger in > alt.atheism with message-id wrote: > >> Am 19.09.2016 01:59, schrieb Alex W.: >>>> >>>> Since in a collective crime, where there is more than one participant, >>>> all members of the group of people that took part are also guilty. >>>> >>>> Since those bystanders had no justification to kill somebody, they are >>>> actually murderers, even if the particular stone they have thrown did >>>> not kill. >>> >>> If the law of the land deems it necessary to actively involve the >>> community in the punishment of a crime, no participant is a murderer. >>> >>> To repeat myself: what is and is not murder is ALWAYS and EXCLUSIVELY >>> dependent on the law. Nothing more, nothing less. >> >> No! >> >> It would be 'state crime', if you allow usual people to take part in an >> execution. > > There is no 'state crime' except something forded on a state by a more > powerful state. I would dispute that. States can and do act in breach of their own laws. History knows ample precedent.