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From: The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
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Subject: Re: Newton's theories of light and gravitation (was: Job interview)
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The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
> > >
> > > HenryWilson wrote:
> > > > On Sun, 04 Oct 26 10:57:38 +0000, Python wrote:
> > > >> There is actually one interesting point in your calculation, and I'll
> > > >> give it to you.
> > > >>
> > > >> If you treat light as a Newtonian corpuscle initially moving at c, then
> > > >>
> > > >>     1/2 m v_f^2 = 1/2 m c^2 + Delta_Phi
> > > >>
> > > >> gives
> > > >>
> > > >>     v_f = sqrt(c^2 + 2 Delta_Phi)
> > > >>
> > > >> and therefore, to first order,
> > > >>
> > > >>     Delta_v/c ~= Delta_Phi/c^2 ~= 5.3e-10.
> > > >>
> > > >> So yes: your Newtonian construction naturally produces approximately the
> > > >> same first-order dimensionless number as the gravitational frequency
> > > >> shift.
> > > >
> > > > It is surprising how often the two theories produce the same number but in
> > > > different ways and with different interpretations...
> > >
> > > And yet the Newtonian interpretation is literally wrong by 100 % (twice
> > > as much as is observed) when it comes to the deflection of starlight
> > > passing by close to the Sun, as Eddington et al. showed first in 1919
> > > (as predicted by Einstein in 1916).  That (and their failure to explain
> > > the outcome of Young's double-slit experiment, and the anomalous
> > > precession of the perihelion of Mercury, among other things) is how we
> > > /know/ that Newton's theories of light and gravitation are _both_ wrong,
> > > and his theory of gravitation is only a good approximation in special
> > > situations.
> > >
> > > Also, an infinite speed of the propagation of gravitational effects as
> > > it follows from Newton's theory of gravitation (a consequence that
> > > Newton himself was bothered by) violates causality (as has already been
> > > explained to you).
> > >
> > > --
> > > PointedEars
> > >
> > > Twitter: @PointedEars2
> > > Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.
> >
> > But the TRUTH is Newton is taught more than Einstein in schools.
> >
> > Newton last longer.
> >
> > Newton deals with a Universal Clock, while Einstein deals with choo choo
> > train clocks and cuckoo clocks.
> >
> > If you had to remove one from school it would be Einstein.
> >
> > photoelectric what is dat?
> >
> 
> The Truth is dat THEY don't want you know is
> albert einstein got the nobel prize for the atomic bomb...
> but it's disguised as...photoelectric.
> 
> yous people are soooooo naive.
> 
> you see only wat you want to see..
> 
> Look at the pattern
> 
> both 1905
> 
> both same process.
> 
> duh
> 
> bunch of bimbos here!
> 


keep in mind in 1905 Einstein didn't know of galaxies




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