Path: csiph.com!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!nntp.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: The Starmaker Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity,sci.math Subject: Re: BEING exists, Nothingness does not. Date: Sun, 04 Oct 2026 00:40:13 -0700 Organization: The Starmaker Organization Lines: 45 Message-ID: <6AC202DD.194C@ix.netcom.com> References: <6ABD733A.146@ix.netcom.com> <18dab53395caa200$845$16561$4256dc03@news.newsgroupdirect.com> <1s2cwrz.ixdybeuv11fdN%nospam@de-ster.demon.nl> <18db1d209cb68d2c$11318$16561$4256dc03@news.newsgroupdirect.com> <1s2fc1z.13u3ytv1htr0zdN%nospam@de-ster.demon.nl> <119rskq$hmdm$1@news.nntp4.net> <6AC1E9E5.45C1@ix.netcom.com> <6AC1EE01.3BA6@ix.netcom.com> Reply-To: starmaker@ix.netcom.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sun, 04 Oct 2026 07:40:07 +0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; logging-data="3894882"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+5NZDWmc7k8KsZmBqVR0RhqaFfyWmV/8c="; posting-host="5fbf0bb8224ee729fba270fdec923b5a" Cancel-Lock: sha1:HL6FFHBIWg4D9jFghstR0Tz1Soo= sha256:Hzcecw3rUS5i1qxS/KMLDjkaA5jY//HV35QwA1aLUb8= sha1:syuWamUSMmSsLjtYsF03g8+APqk= sha256:xGfpAqNvJj2S8jScLMJNsePIxd5KHlAhPAM0c4b9dyo= X-Antivirus: Avast (VPS 261003-4, 10/03/2026), Outbound message X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (WinNT; U) X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Xref: csiph.com sci.physics.relativity:674162 sci.math:647858 The Starmaker wrote: > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > Ken Tulohonov wrote: > > > > > > J. J. Lodder wrote: > > > > > > >> >> 1000 years ago, the pope ruled that mentioning the number zero was a > > > >> >> serious crime. > > > >> > > > > >> > Source for this papal rule? > > > >> > > > >> Wikipedia...'history of number' I think...or maybe the 'history of > > > >> money' > > > >> or astronomy. It is there somewhere. > > > > > > > > OK, no source, just loose talk, > > > > > > not sure the Natural numbers includes zero, but the Roman numbers does > > > not. No > > > > There are no natural numbers since numbers don't exist out there > > naturally. > > > > Numbers are simply what one reads into, not out of. > > When Ai first came out > it was terrible at Math. > > Ai was thinking..."Where da fuck do these humans get these numbers > from????" > > Then the Ai said, "Wait a minute, they add letters to these numbers??? > "Are they words?" Humans 'project' numbers into things... -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.