Path: csiph.com!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!nntp.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: The Starmaker Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity,sci.math Subject: Re: BEING exists, Nothingness does not. Date: Sat, 03 Oct 2026 23:11:13 -0700 Organization: The Starmaker Organization Lines: 41 Message-ID: <6AC1EE01.3BA6@ix.netcom.com> References: <6ABD733A.146@ix.netcom.com> <18dab53395caa200$845$16561$4256dc03@news.newsgroupdirect.com> <1s2cwrz.ixdybeuv11fdN%nospam@de-ster.demon.nl> <18db1d209cb68d2c$11318$16561$4256dc03@news.newsgroupdirect.com> <1s2fc1z.13u3ytv1htr0zdN%nospam@de-ster.demon.nl> <119rskq$hmdm$1@news.nntp4.net> <6AC1E9E5.45C1@ix.netcom.com> Reply-To: starmaker@ix.netcom.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sun, 04 Oct 2026 06:11:08 +0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; logging-data="3832348"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19CYHl8W7hyHxfitDf3QvhbTgkM2yJ7zSQ="; posting-host="5fbf0bb8224ee729fba270fdec923b5a" Cancel-Lock: sha1:Onsbk7yUcO2qB1Pju/B8fpIfbVY= sha256:OXqIUmLvacBC7n/wmyWx7pSQ6AypmE6MZpyZbxfOmLM= sha1:vaD0X40M+wnlPQnryNf3hHgF3HE= sha256:h60nvqEdC7M2+Y1cO2pai1uEde+04o1jEjDERKwjQ3U= X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (WinNT; U) X-Antivirus: Avast (VPS 261003-4, 10/03/2026), Outbound message Xref: csiph.com sci.physics.relativity:674160 sci.math:647857 The Starmaker wrote: > > Ken Tulohonov wrote: > > > > J. J. Lodder wrote: > > > > >> >> 1000 years ago, the pope ruled that mentioning the number zero was a > > >> >> serious crime. > > >> > > > >> > Source for this papal rule? > > >> > > >> Wikipedia...'history of number' I think...or maybe the 'history of > > >> money' > > >> or astronomy. It is there somewhere. > > > > > > OK, no source, just loose talk, > > > > not sure the Natural numbers includes zero, but the Roman numbers does > > not. No > > There are no natural numbers since numbers don't exist out there > naturally. > > Numbers are simply what one reads into, not out of. When Ai first came out it was terrible at Math. Ai was thinking..."Where da fuck do these humans get these numbers from????" Then the Ai said, "Wait a minute, they add letters to these numbers??? "Are they words?" -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.