Path: csiph.com!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!nntp.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: The Starmaker Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity Subject: Re: How is time really organized Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2026 12:05:08 -0700 Organization: The Starmaker Organization Lines: 67 Message-ID: <6A67ABE4.3318@ix.netcom.com> References: <18c310a80c1c9341$1135817$2346$c2365abb@news.newsdemon.com> <113d641$1n26c$1@news.nntp4.net> <113eb13$1urvv$1@gwaiyur.mb-net.net> <6A613E8E.16CF@ix.netcom.com> <6A614152.23C3@ix.netcom.com> Reply-To: starmaker@ix.netcom.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2026 19:04:59 +0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; logging-data="3612743"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX197j2gffXGnidgRZ5GKbH+UsacFIy4sDEk="; posting-host="7860b76850f3eb645f3e79a20e75ee16" Cancel-Lock: sha1:7+y8G3bLXvic3Kwde99/wNfVg+Y= sha256:2zKk2UZAV9GoUrjf006nyQUewOdmQCzaHGezDqsclk0= sha1:spn0icwzDJqxKLcMx7fNLxcVsws= sha256:65LIH2BFoI7XVxdixptnLCAar536QZC82g51ZnBmGZo= X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (WinNT; U) X-Antivirus: Avast (VPS 260727-6, 07/27/2026), Outbound message Xref: csiph.com sci.physics.relativity:671708 The Starmaker wrote: > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > Thomas Heger wrote: > > > > > > Am Samstag000018, 18.07.2026 um 00:40 schrieb Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn: > > > > Natividad Ślusarski wrote: > > > >> Maciej Woźniak wrote: > > > >>> 2026-07-10 14:32:12.000000000 UTC. > > > >>> This is time. > > > >> > > > >> no it's not; it's a event stamp regarding an unachievable reference of the > > > >> past. Time is something completely else. > > > > > > > > In physics, there is such such thing as an "event stamp". > > > > > > > > An event is a point of (a) spacetime: it has a location in space and a time. > > > > The date above lacks a location, so it is just _a_ time (based on a time > > > > standard, UTC) -- but not time itself, which is a physical quantity. > > > > > > > > > > No, spacetime is 'coordinates free'. > > > > > > You need an 'anchor point' to define space and time, because points do > > > not carry labels or calendars. > > > > > > Somethings you always have as reference is your own position and some > > > time called 'now'. > > > > > > So, most of the time some 'here-and-now-systems' are used. > > > > > > But those system are quite arbitrary, because you could possibly be > > > somewhere else. > > > > > > TH > > > > Well, guys say here and now...and girls say this and that. Now, since some of you girls say 'this and that'... How far apart is 'this' from 'that'? Now, I know perfectly well you are not allowed to have a clock where that is from where this is... How do you sync a clock that is over there from this here clock???? Einstein would say..."Fuck that clock! I'm only interested in THIS clock, not THAT clock!!!!" He knows he cannot syn this clock with that clock because that clock is too fucking far away. He is not dat good at math. -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.