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From: The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
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Subject: Re: How is time really organized
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2026 21:14:20 -0700
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The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Thomas Heger wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Am Samstag000018, 18.07.2026 um 00:40 schrieb Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn:
> > > > > > Natividad Ślusarski wrote:
> > > > > >> Maciej Woźniak wrote:
> > > > > >>> 2026-07-10 14:32:12.000000000 UTC.
> > > > > >>> This is time.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> no it's not; it's a event stamp regarding an unachievable reference of the
> > > > > >> past. Time is something completely else.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In physics, there is such such thing as an "event stamp".
> > > > > >
> > > > > > An event is a point of (a) spacetime: it has a location in space and a time.
> > > > > >   The date above lacks a location, so it is just _a_ time (based on a time
> > > > > > standard, UTC) -- but not time itself, which is a physical quantity.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > No, spacetime is 'coordinates free'.
> > > > >
> > > > > You need an 'anchor point' to define space and time, because points do
> > > > > not carry labels or calendars.
> > > > >
> > > > > Somethings you always have as reference is your own position and some
> > > > > time called 'now'.
> > > > >
> > > > > So, most of the time some 'here-and-now-systems' are used.
> > > > >
> > > > > But those system are quite arbitrary, because you could possibly be
> > > > > somewhere else.
> > > > >
> > > > > TH
> > > >
> > > > Well, guys say here and now...and girls say this and that.
> > > >
> > > > So, I tell girls, you see this here, well I want that now!
> > > >
> > >
> > > I was over here, and now I'm over here.
> > >
> >
> > Now, here is the REAL here and Now...
> >
> > Here is here is here..
> >
> > Now is very very far away apart from here.
> >
> > Now is everywhere
> > Here is right here.
> >
> > Where?
> > remove the letter 'W'
> >
> > There??
> >
> > remove the letter 'T'
> >
> > It's all Here!
> >
> > What about Now?
> >
> > Now is like...WOW!
> 
> I mean, how do you measure here from here to over there...Now?
> 
> Where?
> There.
> 
> Now...all the way to the edige of the universe...Now. It's Now now.
> 
> Where?
> over there!
> It's now now.
> 
> over here it is the same now  as over there.
> 
> Where?
> over there!
> It's now now.
> 
> What time is it now?
> 
> If you have to look at your watch...you got the wrong time.
> 
> The time now is...NOW!
> 
> What time is it now? Yes.
> 
> The time is Now!
> 
> Where?
> 
> Everywhere!!


The problem of course is...where does Here begin?

Here or over there?

Where?

Over here.




-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.