Path: csiph.com!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!nntp.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: The Starmaker Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity Subject: Re: How is time really organized Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2026 11:26:34 -0700 Organization: The Starmaker Organization Lines: 76 Message-ID: <6A63AE5A.375F@ix.netcom.com> References: <18c310a80c1c9341$1135817$2346$c2365abb@news.newsdemon.com> <113d641$1n26c$1@news.nntp4.net> <113eb13$1urvv$1@gwaiyur.mb-net.net> <6A613E8E.16CF@ix.netcom.com> <6A614152.23C3@ix.netcom.com> Reply-To: starmaker@ix.netcom.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2026 18:26:26 +0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; logging-data="953433"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19vKzokI/juxzxQYQDB3EmljjPeavSlZiM="; posting-host="e113f9e160d6f786674add1c15840ac4" Cancel-Lock: sha1:MLMSect0XsJnKQ99kt0dRrpAhdA= sha256:sYS18w5HuN6hVtYpVGQ6IcJuh9BpTYGVXulrksvmnxU= sha1:Pavuh7wlSrRKPFEkFeyQmQtniqw= sha256:I8Pv3W8CCm/xJzVMF4IDf8NvuMUggvUgNYVDFrDN8cQ= X-Antivirus: Avast (VPS 260723-8, 07/23/2026), Outbound message X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (WinNT; U) X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Xref: csiph.com sci.physics.relativity:671651 The Starmaker wrote: > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > Thomas Heger wrote: > > > > > > Am Samstag000018, 18.07.2026 um 00:40 schrieb Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn: > > > > Natividad Ślusarski wrote: > > > >> Maciej Woźniak wrote: > > > >>> 2026-07-10 14:32:12.000000000 UTC. > > > >>> This is time. > > > >> > > > >> no it's not; it's a event stamp regarding an unachievable reference of the > > > >> past. Time is something completely else. > > > > > > > > In physics, there is such such thing as an "event stamp". > > > > > > > > An event is a point of (a) spacetime: it has a location in space and a time. > > > > The date above lacks a location, so it is just _a_ time (based on a time > > > > standard, UTC) -- but not time itself, which is a physical quantity. > > > > > > > > > > No, spacetime is 'coordinates free'. > > > > > > You need an 'anchor point' to define space and time, because points do > > > not carry labels or calendars. > > > > > > Somethings you always have as reference is your own position and some > > > time called 'now'. > > > > > > So, most of the time some 'here-and-now-systems' are used. > > > > > > But those system are quite arbitrary, because you could possibly be > > > somewhere else. > > > > > > TH > > > > Well, guys say here and now...and girls say this and that. > > > > So, I tell girls, you see this here, well I want that now! > > > > I was over here, and now I'm over here. > Now, here is the REAL here and Now... Here is here is here.. Now is very very far away apart from here. Now is everywhere Here is right here. Where? remove the letter 'W' There?? remove the letter 'T' It's all Here! What about Now? Now is like...WOW! -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.