Path: csiph.com!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!nntp.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: The Starmaker Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity Subject: Re: How is time really organized Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2026 15:05:02 -0700 Organization: The Starmaker Organization Lines: 41 Message-ID: <6A613E8E.16CF@ix.netcom.com> References: <18c310a80c1c9341$1135817$2346$c2365abb@news.newsdemon.com> <113d641$1n26c$1@news.nntp4.net> <113eb13$1urvv$1@gwaiyur.mb-net.net> Reply-To: starmaker@ix.netcom.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2026 22:04:56 +0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; logging-data="3509896"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18CtcXBZGU73yN3z40MYEMAAumfKGAyenc="; posting-host="e1063a6b1ae60f365d679a3ce73ec72d" Cancel-Lock: sha1:/S7A/fFRyL0oQmFYhypcPYr7K1o= sha256:dVqR0onpvn4qp5DsD5zUU+K1AhCHhJFFoU+U0qj2uhA= sha1:zSEHbvcILUnT/zW0KDs/LbDZYv8= sha256:PxeNNY2Zm4oqSP0rm9V9dU+de28lK95hyN6mi1D0/28= X-Antivirus: Avast (VPS 260722-4, 07/22/2026), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (WinNT; U) Xref: csiph.com sci.physics.relativity:671584 Thomas Heger wrote: > > Am Samstag000018, 18.07.2026 um 00:40 schrieb Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn: > > Natividad Ślusarski wrote: > >> Maciej Woźniak wrote: > >>> 2026-07-10 14:32:12.000000000 UTC. > >>> This is time. > >> > >> no it's not; it's a event stamp regarding an unachievable reference of the > >> past. Time is something completely else. > > > > In physics, there is such such thing as an "event stamp". > > > > An event is a point of (a) spacetime: it has a location in space and a time. > > The date above lacks a location, so it is just _a_ time (based on a time > > standard, UTC) -- but not time itself, which is a physical quantity. > > > > No, spacetime is 'coordinates free'. > > You need an 'anchor point' to define space and time, because points do > not carry labels or calendars. > > Somethings you always have as reference is your own position and some > time called 'now'. > > So, most of the time some 'here-and-now-systems' are used. > > But those system are quite arbitrary, because you could possibly be > somewhere else. > > TH Well, guys say here and now...and girls say this and that. So, I tell girls, you see this here, well I want that now! -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.