Path: csiph.com!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!paganini.bofh.team!not-for-mail From: The Starmaker Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity Subject: Re: Oppenheimer Movie Review Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2023 10:28:55 -0700 Organization: To protect and to server Message-ID: <64C7EF57.3230@ix.netcom.com> References: <33fbad84-77be-465f-a0a8-faf12c029fe0n@googlegroups.com> <6e374b5b-dee5-44d9-ba84-6f1ccb0a3944n@googlegroups.com> <67b1ca67-35d1-4d61-9e70-ff4cab0c0a39n@googlegroups.com> <64C5F7ED.666@ix.netcom.com> <9e245c8d-5523-45cd-a900-2abe3845b375n@googlegroups.com> Reply-To: starmaker@ix.netcom.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: paganini.bofh.team; logging-data="1006816"; posting-host="nLYg9UBeoMWa070gP9wQcw.user.paganini.bofh.team"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@bofh.team"; posting-account="9dIQLXBM7WM9KzA+yjdR4A"; Cancel-Lock: sha256:NUQuy9NI0Iyodao7fHlnNTo2DmOLckUIlTqhvk0o67U= X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.9.3 X-Antivirus: Avast (VPS 230731-4, 07/31/2023), Outbound message X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (WinNT; U) Xref: csiph.com sci.physics.relativity:616424 patdolan wrote: > > On Sunday, July 30, 2023 at 5:31:55 AM UTC-7, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote: > > On 2023-07-30 08:27:24 +0000, Athel Cornish-Bowden said: > > > > > On 2023-07-30 08:09:08 +0000, patdolan said: > > > > > >> On Sunday, July 30, 2023 at 12:45:05 AM UTC-7, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote: > > >>> On 2023-07-30 05:41:01 +0000, The Starmaker said:>> > patdolan wrote:> > > >>>>>>>> On Friday, July 28, 2023 at 10:42:05 AM UTC-7, > > >>> mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:> >>> Feynman cracked the government saves > > >>> containing the atom bomb design.> >>> It shows he was willing to do > > >>> something completely wrong just to get> >>> away with it. Only in > > >>> America would that be allowed. And it should not> >>> have been.> >> > > >>> Mitch, surely you meant to type that it was Klaus Fuchs, > > >>> You're making the usual American assumption that the USA is the only> > > >>> country that matters. Fuchs was not American, so he couldn't "betray"> > > >>> it. > > >>> -- > > >>> athel -- biochemist, not a physicist, but detector of crackpots > > >> Fuchs was not American, to be sure. But all his thefts were committed > > >> on American soil, > > > > > > You think he arrived at Los Alamos knowing nothing? If that were the > > > case why did they bring him? > > > > > >> while earning American Dollars and being protected by same. He > > >> betrayed OUR Bomb program > > It wasn't YOUR bomb programme. You are -- typically for an American -- > > forgetting the essential contributions made by British, Canadian and > > refugee-German scientists, without which there would have been no bomb. > > > > Fuchs himself made major contributions, but he was increasingly > > concerned by his realization that the USA was not planning to pass on > > any information to its allies, most notably the USSR, in the war > > against Nazi Germany. After the war the USA tried, with partial > > success, to exclude even the UK from any information about the results > > from the Manhattan project. However, as we know, the Americans defeated > > Germany without any participation by anyone else, so why shouldn't they > > keep the results to themselves? > > > > In reality, of course, it was primarily the USSR that defeated Germany, > > something Hitler understood perfectly well when he placed 35 Divisions > > on the Eastern Front and just one on the Western Front. > > > > On the other hand, I can accept that it was the USA that defeated Japan. > > -- > > athel -- biochemist, not a physicist, but detector of crackpots > After much consideration and much soul-searching I find that I can follow no other course of action than to formally request that this forum revoke the top security clearance of Athel-Cornish, Mainly-in-Error. This request to revoke his security clearance is predicated on what can only be construed as the pro-Fuchs, pro-Julius and Ethel sentiments expressed by Athel in the preceding post. I request that he be officially excluded from all further threads concerned with atomic secrets. As for A Bob Dylan doesn't write songs...he steals from other song writers. din't you know dat? da only good commie is a dead commie -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.