Path: csiph.com!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!paganini.bofh.team!not-for-mail From: The Starmaker Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics Subject: Re: what is the black hole connected to? Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2023 10:11:47 -0700 Organization: To protect and to server Message-ID: <64AD8D53.B3F@ix.netcom.com> References: <64929B11.1190@ix.netcom.com> <649332ED.1E0A@ix.netcom.com> <649374A3.5CEE@ix.netcom.com> <64946B8C.6814@ix.netcom.com> <649493C1.667@ix.netcom.com> <64949659.7612@ix.netcom.com> <6494DEE9.7281@ix.netcom.com> <64A27537.2CB8@ix.netcom.com> <64A35920.7C5C@ix.netcom.com> <64A484FF.449@ix.netcom.com> <64A4FDA1.4DDE@ix.netcom.com> <64ABB0A4.795A@ix.netcom.com> Reply-To: starmaker@ix.netcom.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: paganini.bofh.team; logging-data="1146686"; posting-host="nLYg9UBeoMWa070gP9wQcw.user.paganini.bofh.team"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@bofh.team"; posting-account="9dIQLXBM7WM9KzA+yjdR4A"; Cancel-Lock: sha256:0sBa0r2ZX8UxUXKyhEpGI4vFIlu1xeGdkWtj2OVQu1k= X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.9.3 X-Antivirus: Avast (VPS 230711-2, 07/11/2023), Outbound message X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (WinNT; U) Xref: csiph.com sci.physics.relativity:615000 sci.physics:877457 I mean, how do you explain to a fish that he is wet???? Do you speak fish? Now I have to explain why you're wet...and don't know it... or aware. A submarine is an air bubble. (they don't have screen doors) The earth...is an air bubble. We all live in a Yellow submarine... The Starmaker wrote: > > What causes the waves on the earth's ocean? Is it...gravitional waves?? > > Does the fish know? > > The temperture of the ocean under those waves.. > > whether it is gravitional waves in space or > on earth is exactly the same degrees. > > That which you call dark matter..is Wet. > > Now, how many thousands of years is going to take > for yous to discover that???? > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > Looking at the waves... > > > > waves are on an ...ocean. > > > > https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1170046496869236736/photo/1 > > https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EDzXB5iU8AA6UiP?format=jpg&name=4096x4096 > > > > It is not a question what caused the waves... > > > > the question is, what is the ocean made of? > > > > wet of course, ask a fish. > > > > On Tue, 04 Jul 2023 22:20:33 -0700, The Starmaker > > wrote: > > > > >Now, i gotta go back > > >and figure out > > >what are those waves... > > >gravitational waves > > >or dark mater waves: > > > > > >https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1170046496869236736/photo/1 > > >https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EDzXB5iU8AA6UiP?format=jpg&name=4096x4096 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >(in the meantime yous others can simply do a an at least > > >a 50% Gaussain Blur on the photo and you'll see it is the > > >photo NASA hoodwinked you with.) > > > > > > > > >https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EDzXB5iU8AA6UiP?format=jpg&name=4096x4096 > > > > > > > > >The Starmaker wrote: > > >> > > >> Dare I say these are not actually gravitational waves > > >> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EDzXB5iU8AA6UiP?format=jpg&name=4096x4096 > > >> > > >> but they are simply...dark matter waves??? > > >> > > >> The Starmaker wrote: > > >> > > > >> > Now, i knows yous guys in the science worlds says "WHAT??" Dark matter is simply....water???" > > >> > > > >> > Yeah. What, you have a problem wit dat???? > > >> > > > >> > Is it my fault yous guys don't knows whats dark matter is. It's wet! > > >> > > > >> > Ask a fish if he's wet. He'll say "What's wet?" > > >> > > > >> > The fish doesn't know > > >> > in that dark wet ocean > > >> > he lives in is wet. > > >> > > > >> > That which you call > > >> > dark matter in > > >> > deep outer space > > >> > is a dark wet ocean! > > >> > > > >> > Like for example... > > >> > in that dark wet ocean > > >> > (where fishes live) > > >> > it is > > >> > the same temperture > > >> > in that dark wet ocean > > >> > (where people live). > > >> > > > >> > It's the same temperture! > > >> > > > >> > Why wouldn't it be? > > >> > > > >> > The Starmaker wrote: > > >> > > > > >> > > Dark matter is simply....water. > > >> > > > > >> > > The Starmaker wrote: > > >> > > > > > >> > > > I'm sure you already heard about > > >> > > > > > >> > > > Euclid space telescope launches to explore dark matter > > >> > > > > > >> > > > What I don't understand is, why is it even > > >> > > > a question of what dark matter is??? > > >> > > > > > >> > > > I thought I answered that question already? > > >> > > > Do these stupid people don't read my Usenet post? > > >> > > > > > >> > > > The question has been answered a long time ago. > > >> > > > > > >> > > > A fish > > >> > > > doesn't > > >> > > > know > > >> > > > it's wet. > > >> > > > > > >> > > > A fish doesn't know > > >> > > > it's universe is wet. > > >> > > > > > >> > > > There was no big bang. > > >> > > > > > >> > > > There was instead... > > >> > > > a big ripple. > > >> > > > > > >> > > > The universe is a flat pond > > >> > > > of water you call black matter. > > >> > > > > > >> > > > Do You know why it doesn't feel wet? > > >> > > > > > >> > > > Explain to the fish when the fish askers you..."What is wet?" > > >> > > > > > >> > > > On Thu, 22 Jun 2023 16:53:13 -0700, The Starmaker > > >> > > > wrote: > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >The Starmaker wrote: > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> The Starmaker wrote: > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > The Starmaker wrote: > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > The Starmaker wrote: > > >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > what is the black hole connected to? > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > you know, wat is the black hole attached to... > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > it's gotta be connected to something? > > >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > i mean, is it connected to space itself and making a hole in the fabric > > >> > > > >> > > > of space...and time? > > >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > or, is it connected to something else... > > >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > or nothing else? > > >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > i mean, what is the black hole connected to? > > >> > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > If you simply look at a picture of the 'actual' details of a black hole > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EDzXB5iU8AA6UiP?format=jpg&name=4096x4096 > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1170046496869236736/photo/1 > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > you can see that the waves/gravitional waves...extends out to space in > > >> > > > >> > > all directions > > >> > > > >> > > like ocean waves. > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > dis ocean you call...space. > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > Like the space of the fishes you call ocean. > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > Now...if you examine carefully the black hole..you will notice there is > > >> > > > >> > absolutely > > >> > > > >> > no indication that the waves are moving inward towards the black hole... > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EDzXB5iU8AA6UiP?format=jpg&name=4096x4096 > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > but in fact, are moving...outwards. > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> actually, the black hole looks more like the result of a ripple > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> https://images.theconversation.com/files/418678/original/file-20210831-21-p50wj3.jpg?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&q=15&auto=format&w=754&h=501&fit=crop&dpr=3 > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> if you understand the science of a ripple. > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > >> like if somebody dropped a planet in a pond universe... > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > >But one thing that is for sure... > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > >that there are no lines converging 'into' the black hole in this > > >> > > > >photograph: > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > >https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EDzXB5iU8AA6UiP?format=jpg&name=4096x4096 > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > >There is nothing trying to get out or escape. > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > >That could explain why nasa gave you the blurred version. > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > >There is nothing going in or trying to escape. > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > >https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EDzXB5iU8AA6UiP?format=jpg&name=4096x4096 > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > >All there is what appears to be ripples, caused by an explosion in the > > >> > > > >hole or something dropping in.. > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > >like a stone dropped in a pond > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > >https://images.theconversation.com/files/418678/original/file-20210831-21-p50wj3.jpg?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&q=15&auto=format&w=754&h=501&fit=crop&dpr=3 > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > >but certaintly, not a single line is converging in: > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > >https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EDzXB5iU8AA6UiP?format=jpg&name=4096x4096 > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > >A black hole would have converging lines and it would then look > > >> > > > >something like this: > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > >https://townsquare.media/site/494/files/2021/06/GettyImages-87521077.jpg?w=1200&h=0&zc=1&s=0&a=t&q=89 > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > >but it dosen't. > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > >You people are being hoodwinked by NASA. > > >> > > > > >> > > -- > > >> > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, > > >> > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, > > >> > > and challenge > > >> > > the unchallengeable. > > >> > > > >> > -- > > >> > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, > > >> > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge > > >> > the unchallengeable. > > >> > > >> -- > > >> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, > > >> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, > > >> and challenge > > >> the unchallengeable. > > -- > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge > the unchallengeable. -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.